Allin EV graphs diff depending on trackers

Allin EV graphs diff depending on trackers

Hello everyone,

After playing a lot of MTT, I've decided to try cash game. I started by playing nl5 and after 10,000 hands I wanted to see what my results were like. So I tested 2 different trackers: Poker Copilot and Xeester. But I realized that the Allin EV curve is totally different on the 2 graphs. On Poker Copilot, I'm constantly moving away from the curve, whereas on the Xeester tracker curve, I sometimes even run above the EV. The problem is that if I want to calculate my EVbb/100 to estimate my level, I get two completely different results. Do you know where this comes from? Are AllinEV calculations different for different trackers? Which curve should I trust?





Thanks in advance

ps: don't mind the extra 3000 hands at the end of the curve on Xeester's tracker.

ps2: I also tested hand2note and got a curve similar to xeester's.

18 August 2024 at 10:32 AM
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I don't know the answer, but given how consistently copilot adds to the ev graph, my guess is it doesn't count rake


To answer this question, you'll need to look at the initial data, and the formulas used to calculate these stats in each tracker.

I agree with @_doc_. It seems that one of the trackers does not consider the rake.

You can also try to compare the AllinEV of a particular hand in each tracker and compare them with the manual calculation.


I think you are right it seems logical. Unfortunately I can't check it myself cause my trial period ended few days ago so I asked to the support.

But if it doesn't consider rake while the net curve does it seems absolutely useless to show both curves together. If I calculate my EVbb/100 based on this curve to estimate my winrate I get absolutely insignificant results ?

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