Muiltiway PF, give up on river
For PF: just don't think I can 3-bet here with so many loose callers, but hand is strong enough to just call even OOP and continue calling a flop bet that others fold to. Then for flop we're not going anywhere. My main questions are for turn and river: on turn, I think we still have equity when calling, and half-pot is also an overbluffed sizing in my experience. But then on river I just can't imagine we can call, sizing very value heavy and regardless we only beat bluffs with no SDV or a 6x that got out of line. What do you think? Thanks a ton for the feedback as always!
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 30 BB (VPIP: 88.46, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 26)
UTG: 83 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 114.5 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 27)
BTN: 120.5 BB (VPIP: 64.71, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (SB): 114 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♥ J♦
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (15 BB, 5 players) 4♦ 4♣ 6♥
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets 10 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 10 BB, fold
Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) A♥
Hero checks, UTG bets 16.5 BB, Hero calls 16.5 BB
River: (68 BB, 2 players) K♠
Hero checks, UTG bets 53.5 BB and is all-in, fold
UTG wins 63.5 BB
4 Replies
You should 3b pre
Id 3bet pre. And in this situation with the pot bloated by the cold callers half pot is a pretty normal turn size. it leaves less than pot on the river. Really the rest of the hand is whatever because I don't think we should ever get into this spot with JJ because it must be 3bet.
Ty for post!
I’m on the same page as you regarding 3bet (although I initially wanted a 3bet and I think it’s the highest EV play)
However, with that in mind and how wide the ranges are I’d be really careful on how I play JJ here; sometimes you just have to let it go and I think I’d sometimes see you/me:
a) 3-bet flop, yes PFA has advantage but you beat almost everything here (except QQ,KK,AA, 4x, 66) — and how often do we see this 2.5BB PFR utg (not incl 4x and 66)
b) just let it go, or
c) like you, calling down (but I really think that is undesired here because really, what are we blocking/catching; and how often does pop bluff?)
3b big pre
