Value or Trap: When to value, when to trap?
DISCLAIMER:
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This hand will probably make you rip your eyes out. I'm a complete beginner and I don't care if I rip through my bankroll trying out different things and learn as I go (I'd thank me for donating BBs).
This is 6-max 2NL Zoom:
Hero (BB) : [Ah Qs] (133.5 BB)
Villain (SB) (107.5 BB)
Pre-flop: Villain raises to 2BB. Hero re-raises to 6BB. Villain calls.
Flop: [Ad Ac Td]
Villain checks. Hero checks.
Turn: [Ad Ac Td 3s]
Villain checks. Hero checks.
River: [Ad Ac Td 3s 8s]
Villain bets 17.5BB. Hero raises to 38BB. Villain goes all-in for 101BB. Hero calls.
Are these spots just absolute valuebets prior to the river or how would you play this hand? Should I stop trying to "reinvent the wheel" with some "interesting" (questionable) plays especially this early in my learning (probably yes)?
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Villain shows: [8c 8h] and wins with a full house, Eights full of Aces. Hero loses with three of a kind, Aces.
Total pot: 217BB
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I just realized I'm f**king ******ed and should've value bet and polarized opponents range earlier because just looking at it, it makes no f**king sense to double check-down a hand like this. Or does it? That's the thing; what would be bluffing here and especially 3-bet bluff on the river? Failed straight draws, failed flush draws? I thought so at the time, but looking back at it: I don't think so. Perhaps this is just a textbook rookie mistake.
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Yeah wouldn't recommend slowplaying unless you have close to the immortal nuts on a board when it's hard for your opponent to have anything at all. Think K8 on KK8, stuff like that. or you know your opponent is overly aggressive so you're trying to exploit that makes slowplaying a street a bit better. Also, any player with experience will know when you check down to the river then start going crazy on a board like this that you were slowplaying and find an easy fold. With this hand just valuebet against worse Ax, Tx, Diamond and gutshot draws. Lots he can call with so just get value.
If you're gonna slowplay, you're gonna 3bai on the river, but no need to slowplay
Cheers on posting the hand, though. You thought you were gonna get roasted and posted anyway because you had a question. That's a big step a lot of people don't take.
