disgusting spot vs fishy reg NL10
villain snapped all of these actions, i had tagged him previously as a fishy reg
i'm assuming this player is 5betting KK. the way he was snapping everything i assumed he might have been on a bit of tilt. JTs+ is in his range, as well as pocket pairs 88+
i realise i should have 4bet larger considering how deep we are. but the rest? he's not even supposed to have a raising range on this flop :/
GG Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 164.2 BB
SB: 186 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
BB: 110.2 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 312.8 BB
CO: 431.9 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ A♥
fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, CO raises to 7 BB, BTN calls 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 25.9 BB, CO calls 18.9 BB, fold
Flop: (60.3 BB, 2 players) 8♣ 7♦ 9♥
Hero bets 19.9 BB, CO raises to 70 BB, Hero calls 50.1 BB
Turn: (200.3 BB, 2 players) Q♦
Hero checks, CO bets 160.3 BB
hero?
11 Replies
check flop. As played fold flop. snap fold turn.
Did you really solve this 350bb deep?
I agree with probs folding flop and definitely snap folding turn.
Forget the solver. Rather, ask yourself this: in your pool, is this spot overbluffed or underbluffed? Is your pool really going to play for all the money with KK when your range is infested with AA? And is it going to be likely that a random player has TT here and thinks, I'm going to risk a 350bb stack in a 4bet pot?
Did you really solve this 350bb deep?
I agree with probs folding flop and definitely snap folding turn.
Forget the solver. Rather, ask yourself this: in your pool, is this spot overbluffed or underbluffed? Is your pool really going to play for all the money with KK when your range is infested with AA? And is it going to be likely that a random player has TT here and thinks, I'm going to risk a 350bb stack in a 4bet pot?
closest i could get was 200bb deep, would ranges change that much 300bb deep? genuine question
agree with the logic here which is why i folded turn, just playing devils advi**** as to why we should snap fold turn instead of thinking it over.
thanks for the feedback
and fwiw solver bets and shoves to raise on flop and donk shoves turn if calling flop
If villain is a good reg, then they will have 77+, JTs+ in their 3b/calling range preflop.
SPR otf is ~4.5, so folding is hard. But, that doesn't mean villain has many bluffs when they raise otf compared to the solver.
If we bet otf, we probably cannot get away from it but are also behind most of the time vs a raise.
So, seems like checking otf is a decent option.
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If villain is a good reg, then they will have 77+, JTs+ in their 3b/calling range preflop.
SPR otf is ~4.5, so folding is hard. But, that doesn't mean villain has many bluffs when they raise otf compared to the solver.
If we bet otf, we probably cannot get away from it but are also behind most of the time vs a raise.
So, seems like checking otf is a decent option.
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i like it, but is a certain type of fish raising for protection with overpairs assuming i have lots of AK in my range too? maybe not, although the way he snap raised had me thinking its possible. checking flop does seem more optimal being this deep
thx guys
Imo, you should be very happy to 4B this pre and get called, but when this board come out your AA are significantly downgraded and being 350bb deep and OOP vs range that has all the sets straights and FD openeders etc you should be very carefull.
I like betting vs passive fish, but vs other type of players im checking.
If it would go check/check on brick run-outs I would B50-B75 targeting OP and pairs+draws. If I get raised I fold.
