NL10 - good river spot or a spew?

NL10 - good river spot or a spew?

Villain: first few hands in the table so no stats

I think I should have made a 1/3 Continuation bet. Is my shove on the river too ambitious. Should I rather just fold or make a smaller raise?

SB: $11.51 (115.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
CO: $9.18 (91.8 bb)
BTN: $8.19 (81.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A


Q


CO folds, BTN raises to $0.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BTN calls $0.70

Flop: ($1.85) 6


7


K


(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.85) 3


(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.85) 8


(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.45, Hero raises to $9.10 and is all-in

14 September 2024 at 09:10 AM
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Just cbet the flop as you say. K high boards are good for you and you block some c and d draws which should add a bit to your fold equity.

As played, you're giving yourself a really bad price on your bluff and villain is likely not a good player due to stack size, you should generally avoid making huge bluffs against players like this who's biggest leak is to call too much and 'not believe you'. Your also not repping many flushes, only 6xdd maaaaaybe and how often do you have that after preflop, barely ever.

also think you can probably just call river


Yes cbet 1/3 or even dlay 1/3 are fine. AP-Without info that this size is super capped and that he wont hero probably best not to do this.


by andymc1 k

Just cbet the flop as you say. K high boards are good for you and you block some c and d draws which should add a bit to your fold equity.

As played, you're giving yourself a really bad price on your bluff and villain is likely not a good player due to stack size, you should generally avoid making huge bluffs against players like this who's biggest leak is to call too much and 'not believe you'. Your also not repping many flushes, only 6xdd maaaaaybe and how often do you have that after preflop,

by Haizemberg93 k

Yes cbet 1/3 or even dlay 1/3 are fine. AP-Without info that this size is super capped and that he wont hero probably best not to do this.

Good tips guys, I will try to learn from these! Thank you!

I'm trying to learn bluffing because I think my playstyle if weak tight but I think I choose the wrong spots everytime!

River: ($1.85) 8


(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.45, Hero raises to $9.10 and is all-in, BTN calls $6.84 and is all-in

Results: $16.43 pot ($1.02 rake)
Final Board: 6


7


K


3


8



Hero showed A


Q


and won $0.00 (-$8.19 net)
BTN showed J


T


and won $15.41 ($7.22 net)

Couple of more hands. Was there any idea in these or are they just a massive SPEW?

When he checks the flop, I SEE WEAKNESS

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $11.24 (224.8 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $2.58 (51.6 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A


Q


3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, SB raises to $0.41, BB folds, Hero calls $0.29

Flop: ($0.87) 4


T


8


(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.44, SB calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.75) 3


(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.18, SB calls $1.18

River: ($4.11) T


(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.97 and is all-in, SB calls $2.97 and is all-in

Results: $10.05 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 4


T


8


3


T



SB showed K


T


and won $9.55 ($4.55 net)
Hero showed A


Q


and lost (-$5 net)

They always have what I try to REPRESENT 😮

SB: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $12.10 (242 bb)
MP: $10.54 (210.8 bb)
CO: $8.88 (177.6 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9


A


3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, SB folds, Hero calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.26) J


6


7


(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.19, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.41

Turn: ($1.46) 8


(2 players)
Hero bets $1.14, BTN calls $1.14

River: ($3.74) J


(2 players)
Hero bets $3.14 and is all-in, BTN calls $3.14 and is all-in

Results: $10.02 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: J


6


7


8


J



Hero showed 9


A


and lost (-$5 net)
BTN showed 9


7


and won $9.52 ($4.52 net)


There's nothing wrong with being weak(overfolding) when your pool is underbluffing in general. You are exploiting your pool by being weak. Being weak doesn't mean you don't bluff.

in the second AQ hand i'm seeing a pattern where villains could be exploiting you by checking because they know you over aggress in these spots when checked to. AQ has some SD value, just check back and take the free card imo. Villain can still have overpairs when they check and as we saw in another one of your posts they don't check with the intention of folding.

I suspect the A9 hand is an ok bluff in theory(not sure though would have to look in a solver because there are lots of other bluffs you could have here that have less SD value, i'm far from a gto expert) although I would give up when the J pairs otr


by andymc1 k

There's nothing wrong with being weak(overfolding) when your pool is underbluffing in general. You are exploiting your pool by being weak. Being weak doesn't mean you don't bluff.

in the second AQ hand i'm seeing a pattern where villains could be exploiting you by checking because they know you over aggress in these spots when checked to. AQ has some SD value, just check back and take the free card imo. Villain can still have overpairs when they check and as we saw in another one of your posts t

Yeah I think I should go back to basics for a while and try not to overplay my hands or try overbold bluffs even though I guess NL5-NL10 is a good place to try and practise those. Practising bluffing gets more costly if I ever more up.

And yeah villain definitely could exploit me if I stab too much versus check. I have to think this more!

Villain is repping ONLY STRENGHT and still I do this on the turn.... OMG

NOTE TO SELF: only ABC poker for the rest of the month. Also I have to count to 10 before I make crazy plays like that!

Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $12.42 (124.2 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $3.90 (39 bb)
MP2: $10.16 (101.6 bb)
MP3: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $8 (80 bb)
BTN: $23.13 (231.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8


9


CO posts BB OOP, UTG+1 calls $0.10, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20, UTG+1 raises to $0.90, MP1 calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, BB folds

Flop: ($3.10) 6


7


6


(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.47, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.47

Turn: ($6.04) 4


(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2.87, Hero raises to $7.63 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $4.76

River: ($21.30) 3


(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $21.30 pot ($1.00 rake)
Final Board: 6


7


6


4


3



Hero showed 8


9


and lost (-$10 net)
UTG+1 showed K


K


and won $20.30 ($10.30 net)


Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2

and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
SB ($4.32) [VPIP: 41.5% | PFR: 17% | AGG: 34.4% | Hands: 99]
HERO ($6.39) [VPIP: 24.8% | PFR: 20.3% | AGG: 35.8% | Flop Agg: 39.6% | Turn Agg: 37.1% | River Agg: 30.9% | 3Bet: 7.9% | Fold to 3Bet: 57.1% | 4Bet: 6.9% | Hands: 22492]
UTG ($5) [VPIP: 21% | PFR: 11.7% | AGG: 32.6% | Hands: 166]
HJ ($5.31) [VPIP: 23.2% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 45.5% | Hands: 57]
CO ($5.57) [VPIP: 7.4% | PFR: 6.5% | AGG: 27.3% | Hands: 111]
BTN ($4.69) [VPIP: 28.7% | PFR: 16.2% | AGG: 36.2% | Flop Agg: 35.1% | Turn Agg: 43.8% | River Agg: 29.2% | 3Bet: 1.4% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 168]

Dealt to Hero: T T

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.15, SB Folds, HERO Raises To $0.55, BTN Calls $0.40

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.7 effective]
Flop ($1.12): 9 2 3
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.53 (Rem. Stack: $3.61), HERO Calls $0.53 (Rem. Stack: $5.31)

Turn ($2.18): 9 2 3 6
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $1.29 (Rem. Stack: $2.32), HERO Raises To $5.31 (allin), BTN Calls $2.32 (allin)

River ($11.10): 9 2 3 6 4

Spoiler
Show

BTN shows: A J

HERO wins: $8.93

Was this you slasher? :p


by Slasher- k

Also I have to count to 10 before I make crazy plays like that!

Same, I still suffer from it now and then.


Delay cbet is good here. You get called by worse and have outs against a lot of hands, and you won’t have to worry about bluffcatching the river against a lot of people who will give up missed draws or check back worse A high.


by andymc1 k

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2

and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
SB ($4.32) [VPIP: 41.5% | PFR: 17% | AGG: 34.4% | Hands: 99]
HERO ($6.39) [VPIP: 24.8% | PFR: 20.3% | AGG: 35.8% | Flop Agg: 39.6% | Turn Agg: 37.1% | River Agg: 30.9% | 3Bet: 7.9% | Fold to 3Bet: 57.1% | 4Bet: 6.9% | Hands: 22492]
UTG ($5) [VPIP: 21% | PFR: 11.7% | AGG: 32.6% | Hands: 166]
HJ ($5.31) [VPIP: 23.2% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 45.5% | Hands: 57]
CO ($5.57) [VPIP: 7.4% | PFR: 6.5% | AGG:

Not me LOL!


by AskZandar k

Delay cbet is good here. You get called by worse and have outs against a lot of hands, and you won’t have to worry about bluffcatching the river against a lot of people who will give up missed draws or check back worse A high.

Sounds good man 😀


Didn’t have a call option I’d xc river here on this line


I would think why you choose to do this? It's that human desire to "win a pot", especially in a 3bet pot. Sure you have the Ad so its maybe not the worst but I would question your motivation/ thought process as I suspect it is based on that desire and not on making the play which has highest ev


by CrazyAndy27s k

Didn’t have a call option I’d xc river here on this line

Sorry! 😃

by Frogman3 k

I would think why you choose to do this? It's that human desire to "win a pot", especially in a 3bet pot. Sure you have the Ad so its maybe not the worst but I would question your motivation/ thought process as I suspect it is based on that desire and not on making the play which has highest ev

Actually I am over careful player and normally I would just check or fold rather than try to bluff. I have started to practise bluffing I have trouble finding the "right" spots or good bluffs. My first instinct is to always fold or check rather than reraise (unless I have the nuts lol)

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