NL10 - Defending TT against SQZ, what to do on the turn?

Fold it mayte

You're not much more than breaking even, even if you know for a fact he plays AK like this every time.

btw you should 3bet pre and yeah call on flop is standard

Though I have to say when he bets on the larger side like this it's getting very close to a fold otf

BB has 24 overpair combos and only needs to bluff 12 of the countless Ax and KQ, or whatever else they wanted to squeeze here, so I'd probably just shrug call.

I'd also back jam pre a lot.

I wouldn't have too many cold-calls on the button when someone has stats like those from the BB (granted, it's only 50 hands but still). If I did, I would want to have some traps. TT isn't the kind of hand I would want to trap with, so I'd just 3-bet it the first time around. If I didn't 3-bet, I would probably just jam over his squeeze. It's a great win to fold out those two overcard bluff hands and probably much higher EV than playing the guessing game when 1 or more overcards flop 70% of the time.

As played, I lean towards a call not blocking an 8,5, or 9 (also keeping in mind you're close to the top of your range) but it is rough.

Is 3bet against early opener a good thing? He will only fold worse hands and 4 bet the hands that will dominate me?

And if I would jam against the Squeezer isnt that a same thing. Squeezer will just fold his bluffs and snap call with JJ+?

Or is my thinking too old school and needs updating? haha xD

Yeah the big bet on the flop looks like he is sizing to a turn shove which is scary 😮

I think it's a pretty big mistake to assume what is essentially a random reg is bombing this flop and jamming turn with KQ, A9 or w/e. The only hands that make sense are maybe A5, 89 but we don't know he plays them like this. And even if we know for a fact he does we don't have odds to call it off. JJ-AA are a lot more likely to be played like this, he sees board with draws on for IP's range and wants to get the money in asap.

Don't worry about 'top of range' too much at this stage OP

CO is not an early open these are steal spots and you should be 3betting CO a good amount with value and bluffs from the button. TT is close to the bottom of the value portion. Depending how CO is reacting to your 3bets you can flat TT if he's folding a lot and only 4betting a range that's too strong to continue. But most people don't play like that, they will flat mid/small PP, suited connectors and broadways and then play fit or fold postflop. If the blinds are very squeeze happy(we don't have that read in this hand) you can flat with the intention of jamming over a squeeze. The idea is the squeezer will have to fold a lot to your backraise so that's where the EV is comming from. When they call we're going to be behind their range but not enough to offset the EV generated all the times we pick up the pot pre. Also, it 'sends a message' 😃

Well explained! Im learning new things from you guys, thank you! What would you do if Hero 3betted TT to 0.90$ and CO 4bet to 2.50$. Would this be a call, fold or JAM?

Np, it keeps the brain juices flowing 😀

And in that situation I would fold without reads.

Sounds good!

There are over a hundred bluff combos available for BB to use. He hardly ever has to use them and this will still be a call. That’s assuming JJ-AA plays this way 100% of the time, which they probably don’t.

I did call the turn hoping he has AK or something but at the same time I felt this "feeling" that I am beat. Villain turned 88 and Hero won the pot!

Most players with those stats are not that spewy. I'd take a note but either way it's still a marginal spot. Against most regs in that pool i'm guessing -EV

I accidentally saw your result, but my first thoughts about this hand didn't change, which were...

1) If this guy is squeezing that much (small sample), he understands when you CC the CO and then call the squeeze, pretty much exactly where your range is.
2) Bet sizing looks sus.
3) Probably more bluffs in his range than there should be considering the 2 above points.

Yeah I definitely took a note that this guy can BLAST LOL

And yeah I still feel that my call was marginal and against most of the regs it could be a losing call.

Good points!

50 hands is not sample you should pay attention to
3bet pre. When BB sqz that is range of JJ+ AK and some BW, so already your hand is worth almost nothing. Both Flop and turn are 0ev spots you can do whatever you want, if you had some reads that would help. In general I think nl5 regs won't 3bet enough from BB and won't bluff too much for a stack, so I would fold at some point.

Yeah I feel that I am more behind in this situation most of the time.

Would you 3bet this preflop? And if someone 4bets, then fold? In these positions I mean.

What about if UTG opens and hero is on the BTN with TT. Still 3bet?

You always 3bet TT pre, only spot where you can call is BBvUTG.

Copy that! I need to study how to play TT more. Thanks!

This is the kind of hand where there is a long discussion about negligible ev difference

Yup exactly what i was thinking