Top pair facing river overbet

Top pair facing river overbet

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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($7.66) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 20.3% | AGG: 35.5% | Flop Agg: 38.6% | Turn Agg: 36.6% | River Agg: 32.3% | 3Bet: 7.8% | 4Bet: 9.5% | Hands: 35616]
BTN ($3.21) [VPIP: 34% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 18.5% | Hands: 101]
SB ($5) [VPIP: 20.8% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 30.5% | Hands: 1116]
BB ($5.90) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 39% | Flop Agg: 31.6% | Turn Agg: 35.7% | River Agg: 71.4% | 3Bet: 17% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 10.5% | Hands: 132]
HJ ($11.83) [VPIP: 17.9% | PFR: 15.3% | AGG: 25.5% | Hands: 202]

Dealt to Hero: A 9

HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.12, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.07

Hero SPR on Flop: [22.23 effective]
Flop ($0.26): A T 8
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($0.26): A T 8 T
BB Bets $0.19 (Rem. Stack: $5.59), HERO Calls $0.19 (Rem. Stack: $7.35)

River ($0.64): A T 8 T 2
BB Bets $0.71 (Rem. Stack: $4.88)

09 October 2024 at 06:29 PM
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Why not cbet?
I would call down but it's not like you are winning much.


You can't call because there's 3 bad data points.

Monotone board/Ace high board/paired OTT

You could fold which would be standard.

I'd jam in game because this guy looks reggy and I think flushes fold. Also from MDA we see pretty big discrepancies on monotone boards and alpha. For me it's between folding and jamming, calling is a losing play.


by Haizemberg93 k

Why not cbet?
I would call down but it's not like you are winning much.

I don't think it achieves much unless I increase my sizing. Would rather see a turn first before start bloating the pot and I'll balance this with other pair plus spade hands. Not totally sold though, cbetting could be better.

My thoughts on river are, I have tons of Tx and Ax in my range after checking flop. He should know that. Not sure if it's good I unblock spades since single spade unpaired hands are his value and his bluffs. I think the last 4-5 times i called an overbet it was value. Feels like I should call but idk


If raises are under bluffed, then raising range blocks a lot of hands that OOP should call, so discrepancy might be in part due the blocker effects.


by andymc1 k

I don't think it achieves much unless I increase my sizing. Would rather see a turn first before start bloating the pot and I'll balance this with other pair plus spade hands. Not totally sold though, cbetting could be better.

My thoughts on river are, I have tons of Tx and Ax in my range after checking flop. He should know that. Not sure if it's good I unblock spades since single spade unpaired hands are his value and his bluffs. I think the last 4-5 times i called an overbet it was value. Feel

You get calls from weaker hands and you are ahead of single spade, so you win a bit from those too. Main factor otf is how often he raises and second is he going to be hyper aggressive vs check. In most cases low limit regs are too passive so you can go ahead and bet.


by Haizemberg93 k

If raises are under bluffed, then raising range blocks a lot of hands that OOP should call, so discrepancy might be in part due the blocker effects.

yeah I noticed that and I think there is something to it as we see it in every monotone board/4 flush spot OTR for folding frequencies.

I can see just folding if you want to go the conservative route but I still prefer jamming because I think flushes fold.


by DooDooPoker k

we see pretty big discrepancies on monotone boards and alpha

Could you elaborate a little bit on this? What's alpha?


by Haizemberg93 k

Main factor otf is how often he raises and second is he going to be hyper aggressive vs check. In most cases low limit regs are too passive so you can go ahead and bet.

Good points, and yeah that's another reason I checked. He can never raise me 😀


by andymc1 k

Could you elaborate a little bit on this? What's alpha?

It's just folding frequencies so 1-MDF = Alpha


by DooDooPoker k

It's just folding frequencies so 1-MDF = Alpha

ah ok, never heard it expressed as alpha before.

Thanks for the input guys.

As for the results... we will never know, I tanked and folded.


Good fold imo. Double tap here looks a lot like pay me tax

EDIT; I would be impressed if 5nl are folding flushes


I’m turbo folding this without any kind of history with BB.


I like DooDoos take. Would prefer a Ten though


I would fold and take a note that villain overbets river when flop goes chkchk on a monotone board and turn pairs

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