CO vs BB. When to call or fold second pair
I think this river fold is a clear mistake but i wanted opinions. Flush completing turns seem like they're overfolded and 4h must be a better card for BB. Since flush completing turns are overfolded i thought he'd be getting to the river with a stronger range, but checking back flop must limit the amount of Qx combos he has so i think this must be a bad fold.
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NL Holdem 0.1(BB)
HERO (100BBs) [VPIP: 21.2% | PFR: 18.1% | AGG: 38.7% | Flop Agg: 46.1% | Turn Agg: 38% | River Agg: 31.5% | 3Bet: 8.8% | 4Bet: 10.3% | Cold Call: 7.3% | Hands: 82304]
UTG (96BBs) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 83.3% | Hands: 13]
HJ (101.5BBs) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 23.1% | AGG: 60% | Hands: 13]
CO (362BBs) [VPIP: 37.5% | PFR: 31.3% | AGG: 50% | Flop Agg: 40% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 66.7% | 3Bet: 28.6% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 17]
BTN (107.4BBs) [VPIP: 12.5% | PFR: 12.5% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 8]
SB (99BBs) [VPIP: 37.5% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 17]
Dealt to Hero: 9♣ T♣
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To 3.5BBs, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls 2.5BBs
Hero SPR on Flop: [12.87 effective]
Flop (7.5BBs): 4♠ 7♥ Q♥
HERO Checks, CO Checks
Turn (7.5BBs): 4♠ 7♥ Q♥ 4♥
HERO Bets 4.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 91.7BBs), CO Calls 4.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 353.7BBs)
River (17.1BBs): 4♠ 7♥ Q♥ 4♥ 9♠
HERO Checks, CO Bets 12.2BBs (Rem. Stack: 341.5BBs), HERO Folds
5 Replies
I guess this hand is pure check ott, one of the reasons for that is your pair outs are almost worthless esp if he over folds. If he over folds to turn probe he likely will over fold if he checks again to river bet
Agreed with the check on the turn. (and fold if he bets)
I might call on the river. Opponent seems quite agressive and capable to bluff.
He probably would have bet most of his queens and flush draws on the flop and has alot of high card flush draws in his range)
Trying to find a lot of bluffs in villains range but just can't. Most of the missed one heart combos that called turn that have no showdown value are hands that very often want to bet the flop. AK, AJ, AT with a heart likely want to check back river, especially since they just called a polar:ish bet OTT which makes Heros range more Qx+ or air OTR. You will most likely see air & 4x/QJ when you call river? I might call just because V is repping a very narrow valuerange with that sizing, even if there isn't very many bluffs either.
Btw betting turn isn't too bad. I think your combo is fine because it unblocks AK/AJ which is a huge portion of villains folds and blocks 99/TT which are calls. I think turn is overfolded in general, and when you have absolute trash combos you can always just X and bet river which is also very profitable if not even more profitable.
This is why I like to check flops in pos so opps will bet turn with dead hands ��
I’d bet like 2-3BB OTR and fold to a raise. It tends to be slightly higher ev than taking the x line. As played it’s fine.
