[MICRO] 2NL Topset vs turn check/jam

[MICRO] 2NL Topset vs turn check/jam


(I'm a beginner,) was folding the right thing?

05 November 2024 at 07:26 PM
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like i said im a new player, trying to become better so dont shoot me. this post wil have plenty of mistakes.
but this is my way of thinking right now..

I seem to have more problems playing against guys like this with 36/17 vpip pfr.
its hard for me to put them on a range of hands..

what would he call my preflop 3bet with?
AQs, AJs, ATs, AQ, AJ, AT maybe A5s?
QQ, JJ, TT, 99
KQs, QJs maybe JTs?

check/call on the flop vs my 3/4th pot bet?
any combo with suited diamond ace
QQ JJ TT 99
KQs, QJs, JTs?

check/jam river?
all his flushes and TT?


If they could have flushes worse than J-high you would have almost correct odds to call and try to hit a diamond or a full house on the river. But here they raised/call preflop, most of their flushes are better than J-high.

It feels gross folding top set in a 3bet pot SBvsBB, in game I would snapcall because "top set blind versus blind" and they might have 66, slowplayed AA or any other random stupidity. They have a lot of flushes also of course but you have some equity vs that.

You can bet much bigger on the flop, no need to restrict yourself to 1/3 pot. You can bet big with your good hands and small with your less good hands, this is not good poker in theory but they won't notice


by boulgakov k

If they could have flushes worse than J-high you would have almost correct odds to call and try to hit a diamond or a full house on the river. But here they raised/call preflop, most of their flushes are better than J-high.

It feels gross folding top set in a 3bet pot SBvsBB, in game I would snapcall because "top set blind versus blind" and they might have 66, slowplayed AA or any other random stupidity. They have a lot of flushes also of course but you have some equity vs that.

You can bet much b

Hey, i checked the solver and it says to actually bet 30% with any JJ, and im not sure why on this board with a fd available. Its not for balancing, since our overpairs and flush draws bet close to pot. Youre pretty good with theory/solvers, could you help me figure that out? I thought it was because we fold everything out and dont get much value, but a lot of stuff is supposed to continue even to the big bet, and also, dont we want to kinda protect our hand against flush draws?


by boulgakov k

If they could have flushes worse than J-high you would have almost correct odds to call and try to hit a diamond or a full house on the river. But here they raised/call preflop, most of their flushes are better than J-high.

It feels gross folding top set in a 3bet pot SBvsBB, in game I would snapcall because "top set blind versus blind" and they might have 66, slowplayed AA or any other random stupidity. They have a lot of flushes also of course but you have some equity vs that.

You can bet much b

thanks for this, and indeed i should have bet much more on the turn like you said.


I think the 30% makes sense because we dominate so much/ only one Jx left.. but in 3bet pots people still float wider with ax type hands so I think you can go a bit bigger.. I don't think protecting from fd on 2 tone flop should influence our actions.


It makes a lot of sense to bet 1/3
Your range is going to have a bunch of hands that might want to bet this size so having JJ in there gives a lot of protection for that range. Betting smaller also allows sb to have more c/r which is good for our hand. Plus blocking top pair so heavily means we want to bet a size he can call with more marginal holdings.


by Frogman3 k

It makes a lot of sense to bet 1/3
Your range is going to have a bunch of hands that might want to bet this size so having JJ in there gives a lot of protection for that range. Betting smaller also allows sb to have more c/r which is good for our hand. Plus blocking top pair so heavily means we want to bet a size he can call with more marginal holdings.

See, if im looking at it correctly (i only have whats free so might not be 100% accurate), we actually have less small bets here than big bets (60% big, 18% small, 22% check) and a lot of it is mixing. Most of the stuff, including our bluffs like flush draws, wants to bet big most of the time, and the xr difference for the opponent is like 3%. Blocking top pair, however, might be the reason. Didnt think of that.

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