Top Sets vs X/Raises OTT. Cooler or Calling Mistake?
HAND #1
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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 209.24 BB
SB: 153.76 BB (VPIP: 24.01, PFR: 18.41, 3Bet Preflop: 7.78, Hands: 442)
BB: 122.96 BB (VPIP: 24.68, PFR: 15.17, 3Bet Preflop: 7.64, Hands: 397)
UTG: 110.08 BB (VPIP: 51.85, PFR: 37.04, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 29)
MP: 192.44 BB (VPIP: 36.25, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 332)
CO: 122 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 26.37, 3Bet Preflop: 17.09, Hands: 515)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♠ T♣
UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold
Flop: (10.4 BB, 3 players) 5♦ 8♣ 9♥
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 3.28 BB, fold, MP calls 3.28 BB
Turn: (16.96 BB, 2 players) T♥
MP checks, Hero bets 12.08 BB, MP raises to 35.24 BB, Hero calls 23.16 BB
River: (87.44 BB, 2 players) A♦
MP bets 50.56 BB, Hero calls 50.56 BB
MP shows J♣ Q♥ (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 29%, Turn 77%)
Hero mucks T♠ T♣ (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 71%, Turn 23%)
MP wins 179.12 BB
HAND #2
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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 111 BB
SB: 146.48 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 71.92 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 88 BB (VPIP: 14.79, PFR: 9.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.60, Hands: 434)
MP: 171.84 BB (VPIP: 25.74, PFR: 18.36, 3Bet Preflop: 7.63, Hands: 629)
CO: 96.6 BB (VPIP: 17.33, PFR: 7.20, 3Bet Preflop: 1.30, Hands: 390)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♣ 9♦
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.48 BB, Hero calls 2.48 BB, fold, fold
Flop: (6.36 BB, 2 players) 3♣ 7♣ 8♠
CO checks, Hero bets 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB
Turn: (10.36 BB, 2 players) 9♥
CO checks, Hero bets 13.08 BB, CO raises to 92.12 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 79.04 BB
River: (194.6 BB, 2 players) 6♦
CO shows J♠ T♠ (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 49%, Flop 31%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows 9♣ 9♦ (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 51%, Flop 69%, Turn 23%)
CO wins 184.88 BB
EXTRA HAND #03 (This one's OOP, but Villain Raise CBF & TBarrels. What do you think?
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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 164.92 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 21.27, 3Bet Preflop: 13.10, Hands: 224)
SB: 155.76 BB (VPIP: 15.85, PFR: 12.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 429)
BB: 78.92 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.60, Hands: 295)
Hero (UTG): 141.08 BB
MP: 186.2 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 83)
CO: 126.64 BB (VPIP: 22.69, PFR: 18.06, 3Bet Preflop: 10.87, Hands: 220)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♦ T♠
Hero raises to 2.08 BB, MP calls 2.08 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold
Flop: (5.56 BB, 2 players) K♥ T♣ Q♥
Hero bets 3.96 BB, MP raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 6.04 BB
Turn: (25.56 BB, 2 players) 7♠
Hero checks, MP bets 16.4 BB, Hero calls 16.4 BB
River: (58.36 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero checks, MP bets 56 BB, Hero calls 56 BB
MP shows J♦ 9♦ (Straight, King High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 64%, Turn 77%)
Hero mucks T♦ T♠ (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 36%, Turn 23%)
MP wins 161.84 BB
Would you have Fold OTT in hand 1?
Would you have Fold OTR in hand 2?
Would you have Fold OTR in hand 3?
I honestly heard ''my gut'' telling me all times ''Hey brother, Fold cuz Villain has it'', specially vs the Nit from hand #2. But if I am not calling with those hands, what am I calling with?
PS: After reviewing dozens of X/R OTT at NL25, I've came to conclusion that when Villain X/Raise-Jam OTT, or X/Raise OTT & Bet-Jam OTR, they have it 90% of the times (and the times they don't, is cuz they're Maniacs, and still sometimes, they hit their draw)
Is it too Nitty to fold in these spots?
Thank you!!
2 Replies
You might ask yourself another question: against whom will you call?
PS: After reviewing dozens of X/R OTT at NL25, I've came to conclusion that when Villain X/Raise-Jam OTT, or X/Raise OTT & Bet-Jam OTR, they have it 90% of the times (and the times they don't, is cuz they're Maniacs, and still sometimes, they hit their draw)
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"Big bets mean big hands" is the best one-line advice I have ever heard. I need a very clear read to ignore this and assume a bluff (assuming amateur opposition). Well, pot odds exist, too.
More important even than their VPIP is the question wether they are passiv or aggressiv. Because if they are passiv, they are super-tight in spots where they get agressive.
So, playing against the villain in hand #2, when he x/r-overbet jams the turn, I really think he has it and is afraid of the flush draw. Theoretically, I see a fold here. That doesn´t mean I could pull it off at the tables.
Hand #3, player seems tight-agressive as I read their stats, they probably play in a quite straightforward way, which doesn´t look too good for us either, seeing as sets on their side are unlikely because of preflop. I at least call the turn. Unsure about river.
Hand #1, I go broke.
HAND #1 and HAND #2
3-bet preflop.
Calling OOT is okay. You still can have a better hand, plus you have outs to improve.
HAND #3
Close spot but I think you played this hand fine.
We can exclude QQ KK from the opponent's range.
That leaves us with AJ, and KQ against which we have 36% equity with the required 33%.
Your research on turn raises is correct.
You shouldn't bluff catch in these spots, but if you see hands in your opponent's range that you're still hitting, you need to assess whether they're enough to call.
