Should I just rip this on the river? If not, what make better bluffs?
PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
pistaKKio23 (CO): 98.4 BB (VPIP: 21.53, PFR: 10.12, 3Bet Preflop: 1.70, Hands: 1,911)
Vecissitude (BTN): 100 BB
FastEddy967 (SB): 204.2 BB (VPIP: 27.26, PFR: 18.85, 3Bet Preflop: 7.72, Hands: 805)
Spiral01 (BB): 221.8 BB (VPIP: 25.43, PFR: 22.86, 3Bet Preflop: 11.16, Hands: 1,820)
ipt84 (UTG): 87.6 BB (VPIP: 17.83, PFR: 15.22, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 232)
HelterSkr (MP): 120 BB (VPIP: 34.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 75)
FastEddy967 posts SB 0.4 BB, Spiral01 posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Vecissitude has Q♥ 2♥
fold, fold, fold, Vecissitude raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Spiral01 calls 1.4 BB
Flop: (5.2 BB, 2 players) J♥ T♣ 3♥
Spiral01 checks, Vecissitude checks
Turn: (5.2 BB, 2 players) A♦
Spiral01 checks, Vecissitude bets 3.8 BB, Spiral01 raises to 17.6 BB, Vecissitude calls 13.8 BB
River: (40.4 BB, 2 players) A♠
Spiral01 bets 30.6 BB, fold
It's always a fold right? V is capable, but what is he using here as a bluff? Probably hands that have a Q of hearts. I just think it's a crazy line since he went from saying he had a straight, to now saying he has a boat. I guess AT and he thought I would never check KQ on flop.
Only hands that I can think to bluff shove is something blocking the T like KT of hearts and putting his straights and trip aces in a tight spot.
Would you guys ever make a play like that?
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It's always a fold right? V is capable, but what is he using here as a bluff? Probably hands that have a Q of hearts. I just think it's a crazy line since he went from saying he had a straight, to now saying he has a boat. I guess AT and he thought I would never check KQ on flop.
Only hands that I can think to bluff shove is something blocking the T like KT of hearts and putting his straights and trip aces in a tight spot.
Would you guys ever make a play like that?
There is a couple mistakes in your thought process here. First, villain can still value bet KQ very, very easily on the river; so when you say, "he was saying he had a straight, but now he is saying he has a boat" is not correct as he can have both. Secondly, when you're considering whether or not to bluff you should first think about whether or not your opponent is going to fold at an appropriate frequency for the sizing you will choose to justify bluffing at all and then and only then should you next think about what combinations might make sense to do it with more than others.
There is a couple mistakes in your thought process here. First, villain can still value bet KQ very, very easily on the river; so when you say, "he was saying he had a straight, but now he is saying he has a boat" is not correct as he can have both. Secondly, when you're considering whether or not to bluff you should first think about whether or not your opponent is going to fold at an appropriate frequency for the sizing you will choose to justify bluffing at all and then and only then should y
I haven't put this hand through the solver yet, but I feel disrespected. Half pot and 33 pot I could take it, but this size just tilts me.
Am I wrong for thinking this?
By Villain, that Ace hits me so good so many times and he check raises? He is only repping a straight.
By river I have so many boats and he 75 pots? I guess he is just targeting trip aces.
The more I think about it the more I think I should have ripped it.
