Who calls the Turn overbet like that?
GG Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 101 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
SB: 137 BB (VPIP: 25.76, PFR: 19.70, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 68)
Hero (BB): 208.5 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 68)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5♥ 2♣
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB
Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣ 8♣ 9♠
Hero bets 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB
Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) 7♠
Hero bets 36 BB, BTN calls 36 BB
River: (84.5 BB, 2 players) T♦
Hero bets 84.5 BB, BTN calls 59 BB and is all-in
Spoiler
Hero shows 5♥ 2♣ (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 33%, Flop 26%, Turn 88%)
BTN shows 7♥ J♥ (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 67%, Flop 74%, Turn 13%)
BTN wins 191.5 BB
The villain limps A LOT. He's good, but his playing style is like mine. How do u counter LAG limpers? be NIT?
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Your post contains contradictions - “Villain limps a lot” “He’s good” - both of those cannot be true. You refer to him as a LAG limper - there is no such creature. That’s like a square circle; it’s a contradiction. LAG means loose aggressive. Limping is the opposite of aggressive. So someone who limps frequently with a lot of hands is loose passive. You say villain is such a player, yet you post a hand where villain raises J7s? That seems more like a LAG than a loose passive player, but of course I only have this hand to look at.
As for exploiting a loose passive limper, you do so the same way you exploit any deviation from GTO - you do the opposite. If he is limping, he is capping his PF range, so always raise his limps, never overcall them. Try to isolate against the loose passive player. You should also probably tighten your PF raising range since loose passives tend to call more than they should. The fringes of your normal raising range benefit greatly from fold equity, but you usually will have less fold equity against loose passives, so you can eliminate the more marginal hands from your range.
52o preflop call vs 35BB open is torching money. Stop posting that much hand histories, most of them show basic preflop mistakes. Just learn preflop play.
Betting on the flop into the preflop agressor when we are out of position can happen, but it's very hard to play and you'd better stick to 100% check.
Turn overbet torching money again, you have a weak straight: when you bet that big they will call with very strong hands or strong draws only (= you isolate yourself against stronger hands than yours). In this case you got "lucky" and villain did a very speculative call with weak pair + gutshot, either villain is a fish or he has a read you are an aggro-whale (or both).
Thank you for your input! Recently, my VPIP has increased to around 40 as I am looking to play more post-flop games online, I am still quite nit irl in live games. I always buy in with 100bb max and grind. But with this method of playing the variance is high, always risk of roundtrip or sometimes even losing the buy in. Sometimes you win 80-200bbs. Personally, I enjoy playing loose aggressive poker....
I have received multiple feedbacks that I should work on my preflop a lot in 2+2. I will work on it and try to playing a tighter style and see how it goes. I will find a table that is full of loose players, and I want to learn how to tighten up by following the GTO charts.
I have some frequencies on how I should play some cards, most times tight in EP and sometimes loose in EP. Most times are tight in LP up to a certain extent, and some speculative cards if the price is right to play post-flop.
Based on my betting tendencies, most times I would adopt a "balanced" approach by betting a certain % of the pot. Sometimes I would exploit by overbetting with bluffs, sometimes I overbet with good s/d hands for max value or denying equity. It all depends on vs which players and the board.
In this case :
BTN: 101 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
The villain is loose and only RFI 5.26% of the time; he limped a lot. 0% 3bets and sometimes call with marginal hands. Also he raised 3.5bb with Jh7h. After knowing this, I would re-adjust by re-raise with better hands PF.
The problem here is that I thought that he would raise 3.5bb on BTN (due to his low RFI preflop tendencies) with good cards, I called with speculative hands this time. Deciding to be loose against him. OTR I was wondering if he had a JJ KK AA QQ TT (3.5BB raise preflop) , I was thinking to double barrel overbet pot. I decided to size down my overbet instead to bet pot (BIG blunder) his effective stack was way lower. So that was a mistake.
Eg:
Imagine holding AK betting 3.5BB pre flop and the flop comes 456, AK would lose to "speculative hands". I personally had to fold a lot of AK as the flop didn't side me in a 3b pot....
Thank you for your input! Recently, my VPIP has increased to around 40 as I am looking to play more post-flop games online, I am still quite nit irl in live games. I always buy in with 100bb max and grind. But with this method of playing the variance is high, always risk of roundtrip or sometimes even losing the buy in. Sometimes you win 80-200bbs. Personally, I enjoy playing loose aggressive poker....
I have received multiple feedbacks that I should work on my preflop a lot in 2+2. I will work
A couple things:
HUD stats are great and all, but be very cautious with deviating based on them, especially when your sample size on villain is microscopic - 19 hands is indeed microscopic.
DonÂ’t put much stock in open sizings as a reflection of openers range (You should take them into account when constructing your own ranges since your pot odds will be directly affected). A good opponent will use the same sizing for all hands in his open range. There are reasons to vary open sizings a bit, but strength of hand is not one of them.
Finally, I think your ideas about what your stats should be are off. 40% VPIP is not LAG itÂ’s fishy. A good LAG probably has stats you seem to think are nitty - something more like VPIP in the high 20s and PFR only a percent or two lower. A recurring theme in many of the hands you post is that you play marginal or bad hands PF, and that leads you into a tough position on a later street. The remedy for this is to stop playing these hands in the first place. There is no way to improve how you play these spots post-flop precisely because they are impossible spots to play profitably. Avoid them by folding pre.
Extremely low stakes and very badly played. Preflop call is horrible. I would not lead wet flop with close to air. Turn overbet with bottom end of straight with 6789 and you have 5 is horrible. Villain's turn call is maybe even worse.
Fold pre.
Easily pre fold in the world, why are you calling 52o lmao
You are actually a favorite to hit one of your flush or straight outs. There are 15 outs (9 spades plus the other three non-spade eights and kings). The probability that the turn and river both miss is 15/47 x 14/46 =0.459 or about 46%. Therefore you hit an out 54% of the time. Of course your equity is not 54% since there will be cases where you chop a straight or your opponent has a higher flush, but this has already been covered in other posts.