Flopped mid flush multiway facing tripple barrel
Flopped mid flush multiway facing tripple barrel

Flopped mid flush multiway facing tripple barrel

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 47)
SB: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 97 BB (VPIP: 17.31, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 57)
UTG: 101 BB (VPIP: 18.13, PFR: 17.10, 3Bet Preflop: 9.88, Hands: 199)
Hero (CO): 151 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 9

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (10 BB, 4 players) Q 4 8
SB bets 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (17.5 BB, 3 players) 6
SB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB, fold

River: (43.5 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 79.5 BB and is all-in

Thinking I should have raised flop. AP I feel like my hand is a bluff catcher here am I wrong?

11 May 2025 at 12:53 AM
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Fold river, pot odds are not good enough vs the chances they are bluffing or value betting worse.
You could raise earlier because you don't want to see a 4th heart rolling out and killing your action or putting you behind, but I don't think the passive line is bad here, in a 4-way pot our threshold for stacking off increases a lot and low flush is not *that* exciting.

I see on some preflop charts 97s is a preflop open sometimes, but a. NL2 rake is very high, which makes us want to play tighter than charts built for higher stakes and b. NL2 players are very call happy so the chances you successfully steal the blinds are reduced a lot and you will end up in tricky situations quite often. Although judging by their stats those guys seem pretty tight, but just a general remark.


by boulgakov m

Fold river, pot odds are not good enough vs the chances they are bluffing or value betting worse. You could raise earlier because you don't want to see a 4th heart rolling out and killing your action or putting you behind, but I don't think the passive line is bad here, in a 4-way pot our threshold for stacking off increases a lot and low flush is not *that* exciting.I see on s

Thanks for the response. To be honest (this will sound bad). I did not really consider the pot odds when making my river decision. My thought process was more like. This is Micro stakes so everything is under bluffed, Mutiway pot again under bluffed, Monotone board, Under bluffed, Tripple barrel, Under bluffed, And the large over bet on the river is super polarized but what are his bluffs? Does villain really over call from the small blind with just Ahx or Khx? I don't think so. Could he have flopped a set and figured he was good to bet turn since flop wasn't raised then jam river when he boated up, yeah I think that's possble, and the only flush I can think of that I beat that I still am not sure gets played this strong is 6h5h. All of that considered. I did fold the river. I do need to put more consideration into pot odds when making these decisions. I probably should look at that first to determine how often I have to win then from there consider how many bluffs are likely. As for the PF raise I do understand that it is a bit loose for the stakes but the table was playing pretty tight in fact this was the first mutiway pot I had to play and the first in a while that went beyond a flop C bet. With lots of hands going uncontested PF.

Thanks again for your help I really appreciate it.


This is way too passive. In a high station environment you want to be extracting amap in most situations. Here my first thought is how can I stack Qx, sets and A draws, preflop slowplays and other draws/ego air? The most efficient way to do that is to start increasing the pot size by raising. Size-wise I don't care. If you think the fishes will respond better with a cheeky min raise fine, we can still get stacks in, and sometimes you provoke one of those hilarious bidding wars that always favour US what has the nuts (and any higher flush is pure cooler). The outcome is case in point. All that value would've paid off sooner if we were more of a PITA. We shouldn't always go berserk with value but it being hyper fragile to turns is a #1 tier reason.


I agree with Ceres, while its a difficult spot for you to have bluffs, there will be enough stations at this limit to pay you off, and their bet size on the flop and turn is more indicative of a set/2 pair or top pair. Either raise the flop or turn. As played though it looks like an easy fold - Its such an underbluffed line/sizing + virtually everyone plays way more straightforward in multiway pots. Also in general baby flushes are less likely combinatorically, and in this case they are virtually all blocked.

The preflop open is ok if the table is way overfolding or there is a whale in the blinds and the players behind you aren't punishing you with 3bets.


by Ceres m

This is way too passive. In a high station environment you want to be extracting amap in most situations. Here my first thought is how can I stack Qx, sets and A draws, preflop slowplays and other draws/ego air? The most efficient way to do that is to start increasing the pot size by raising. Size-wise I don't care. If you think the fishes will respond better with a cheeky min

Thank you so much for the feedback I really appreciate it. I posted the hand because I do feel like I did play the early streets too passively and that is ultimately what put me in this river spot.


by rbrtioh m

I agree with Ceres, while its a difficult spot for you to have bluffs, there will be enough stations at this limit to pay you off, and their bet size on the flop and turn is more indicative of a set/2 pair or top pair. Either raise the flop or turn. As played though it looks like an easy fold - Its such an underbluffed line/sizing + virtually everyone plays way more straightfor

Thank you so much for the feedback. I also feel this is a very underbluffed line on a board texture that is also typically underbluffed. I did fold in game and posted the hand mostly because I do feel like it was my early street play that put me in this spot.


I agree raise flop and try to get money in when board doesnt pair or 4th flushcard comes.

I think you analyse well, underbluffed spot, multiway is less bluffed etc. Nice fold on the river.

I open 97s almost always if BtN isnt loose. Because blinds will overfold river when you 3barrel on good boards. If you don't overbluff river on these stakes then better fold preflop.

GL!


Calling the flop is fine - your hand is not a super hand to stack-off, since you don't even have outs if behind.
Meaning: even, if you had a set, you'd still have outs.

I think I would never find a fold here - neither at micros nor at low or mid. Maybe at mid.

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