NL10 - Failed Bluff
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 31.7 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 80.8 BB
UTG: 144.4 BB
CO: 258.2 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ K♣
fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, BB calls 7 BB, BTN calls 6 BB
Flop: (24 BB, 3 players) J♣ 6♦ 4♠
Hero checks, BB bets 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB
Turn: (30 BB, 2 players) 9♣
Hero checks, BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB
River: (36 BB, 2 players) 6♠
Hero checks, BB bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 86 BB and is all-in, BB calls 62.8 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Q♣ K♣ (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 46%, Flop 29%, Turn 36%)
BB shows T♦ T♣ (Two Pair, Tens and Sixes)
(Pre 54%, Flop 71%, Turn 64%)
BB wins 161.1 BB
Pre: I raise for Value.
Flop: I call with such a good price and back doors.
Turn: I picked up alot of outs so easy call.
River: I feel he is weak so I jam all in as a bluff.
My thoughts: It's easy to say that it's a bad bluff since he called, but I don't know how he was able to call with only pocket 10's.
16 Replies
Your bet is very polarized; you have thick value or you are bluffing. V decided your line looked more like a bluff than trying to get the money in.
You botched it up bro haha. Such a fishy play. Don't do that and don't even waste too much time thinking about this crap.
Vilain is repping a weak hand with no additional equity. A turn raise would have probably been far more effective. You can raise a regular size, putting pressure on vilain who might be then scared of a river bet. You also rep more strenght that way.
But you dont need to do these fancy plays at 10nl. You got the right price to call. Missed. Dont need to give your stack away every hand.
Yeah.. you never play a value hand like this so of course he called you.
His a fish that got attach to his hand... but better way would be to raise his flop bet-follow up OTT and giveup river
I think you missed the point that you looked weak the whole hand aswell.
He bets small twice and you just called. River is a brick and youdecide to bet all-inn..
As played, you got a nice price to hit and you missed. Then give up because you choose this line. If you where going to bluff then reraise flop or turn and then jam river.
He also looks fishy because of his line. Vs a fish just get your money in when you hit, don't give them your money when you miss.
You're commentary is all about your hand and not at all about your range. You have not consider what you are representing and how your opponents bet sizings may have manipulated your range
KQ makes good hand to agress on the flop. OTT also makes good hand but quite hard to have value
First you can start with cbet. Your hand has very good properties (2 overs, many BDs)
As played there is no need to make such a play OTR. First you need to think where your EV is in he hand (where is the point fish gives it to you) and here it's his sizings vs. which he let you realize your EV for such a low price. Making such a play is just guessing game, it's very low certainty spot which can be very +EV but also very -EV and letting it go is also better for your mental game
Vs a fish I would be looking to limit my river bluffs. I'm thinking about what types of hands should fold to a turn raise. If his range has pp's, 2nd pairs and some ace highs that should fold then a turn raise is probably good. I'm guessing fish cold call 3 bets with AQ, maybe ATs and jj-88, something like that. Stats would be nice here. Given that I think turn raise is good here
Why is everyone calling vilain a fish? The worst thing he did was go 10% ott. Flop 1/3 would be better i think, but 1/10 is prob fine. River is fine sizing to target A high and easy call vs a shove.
Why is everyone calling vilain a fish? The worst thing he did was go 10% ott. Flop 1/3 would be better i think, but 1/10 is prob fine. River is fine sizing to target A high and easy call vs a shove.
I was basing it off the cold call of the 3bet. I don't cc 3bets at this stake, but maybe there's times to do it but I'd tag them a fish in my games
Or exploitive play based on knowing if they do not bet hero will over bluff. Remember before calling V a fish they did win absolute maximum on the hand. I'd need evidence before I decided they were fish not exploitive.
Because almost no reg plays like this so despite a cold call if you face this situation and you have need to think what's most possible because of his sizings scheme - if he's a fish or a reg of course you choose fish
He’s a rec- you should pounce on his mistakes.
One main one is not folding enough pre so size up a bit.
The others is they start slightly over folding if you barrel larger and they overbluff when you check so you want to put your strong value and traps into checks and small bets and put hands like this into medium or large bets looking to blast the turn leaving a smaller bet behind on the river. This way, if you hit TP + by the river they actually underfold a capped range so you can just merge the river if you get there with anything good.
You likely picked the worst line for your hand. Trying to bluff recs in lines where they “don’t believe you” for example just xcing small bets and flop and turn then just jamming on the river like that is why people think that recs don’t fold- they just don’t pick the correct spots to make them fold so.