10nl River spot
Villain who bets river is 23/2 after 94 hands
What would you do on the river with a player yet to act behind us?
[converted_hand][hand_history]PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3
UTG+1: $11.29 (112.9 bb)
MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
MP+1: $12.06 (120.6 bb)
MP+2: $11.19 (111.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.34 (113.4 bb)
BTN: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $9.60 (96 bb)
BB: $17.50 (175 bb)
UTG: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J♥ K♥
fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.35, 3 players) 6♠ 4♥ K♠
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, UTG+1 calls $0.90
Turn: ($4.05, 3 players) 5♣
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.93, BTN calls $1.93, UTG+1 calls $1.93
River: ($9.84, 3 players) 8♦
UTG+1 bets $1.00, Hero?
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7 Replies
Well raising seems crazy and doesn't bluff much hands off so we can eliminate this option.
Folding seems hard since we are getting massive pot odds to call.
I guess our only option is to call on river. We will lose most of the times but as long as we win one in a blue moon it breaks even.
Also bet sizing seems odd on flop/turn.
I rather put emphasis on flop/turn than vs this tiny bet on river.
Any thoughts behind the bet size on the flop?
River looks like a block bet to me, raising doesn't seem like a great idea, so I'd just call.
Well raising seems crazy and doesn't bluff much hands off so we can eliminate this option. Folding seems hard since we are getting massive pot odds to call.I guess our only option is to call on river. We will lose most of the times but as long as we win one in a blue moon it breaks even.Also bet sizing seems odd on flop/turn.I rather put emphasis on flop/turn than vs this tiny
How much would you bet on the flop and turn?
I assume you're returning player looking at your bet sizes and threads posted. Oh yea 2/3 cbets were like a thing back in the day.
Nowadays cbetting flop small like 1/4~1/3 is 'standard'. 1/2 or more are on the 'bigger' side.
If opponents are huge fishes, you can throw this bet sizing out the window and start betting gigantic for value only.
Reason this small is we can cbet frequently, getting better price, also if villain is better they might start raising on flops especially on wet boards.
If they just call, especially vs out of position players, their ranges might be capped.
When they have capped ranges, while we have uncapped ranges we can start blasting turn and/or river for big boy sizes ie. overbetting.
If board changes alot on turn/river we can bet small to like 1/2. Yes turn bets 1/2 is small. On turns, I personally bet 3/4 as more standard sizing, sometimes up to 1.2x-1.5x pot depending on board textures, hand and villain.
Below is link to a guide to bet sizings
I assume you're returning player looking at your bet sizes and threads posted. Oh yea 2/3 cbets were like a thing back in the day.Nowadays cbetting flop small like 1/4~1/3 is 'standard'. 1/2 or more are on the 'bigger' side.If opponents are huge fishes, you can throw this bet sizing out the window and start betting gigantic for value only.Reason this small is we can cbet freq
You're spot on, I am a returning player from about 10 years ago.
My standard cbet recently has been about half pot.
Thank you for your advice and link, it's a big help.
Slow down multiway. You might get two streets of value with this hand if you're lucky but x flop or turn. Call river ap
River definitely isn't the issue. This bet size needs a V:B of ~11:1 in order to be balanced, so villain is for sure overbluffing. You don't need to turn KJ into a bluff.
