10nl Two spots with AKs facing 3bets
Hand 1 - Full ring but only 6 players sitting down
Villain who shoves is 18/14 after 942 hands
Do you call or fold to shove?
[converted_hand][hand_history]PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3
Hero (BTN): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
SB: $10.00 (100 bb)
BB: $10.00 (100 bb)
UTG: $10.22 (102.2 bb)
MP: $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♥ K♥
fold, MP raises to $0.30, CO raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, MP raises to $10.00 and is all-in, fold, Hero?
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Hand 2
Open raiser is 14/12 after 1100 hands
3 bettor is 0/0 after 4 hands
4bet or fold?
[converted_hand][hand_history]PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3
SB: $13.90 (139 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)
UTG: $9.55 (95.5 bb)
UTG+1: $10.22 (102.2 bb)
MP: $10.94 (109.4 bb)
MP+1: $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $10.00 (100 bb)
BTN: $11.07 (110.7 bb)
SB posts $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♣ A♣
fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.25, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.90, 3 folds, Hero?
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5 Replies
Looks like you need ~35% for H1. You're breakeven against QQ+, and around 38% vs QQ+, AKs. Add in AKo and you're 42%. I think most people would shove the latter range and not AKo @ 100% frequency. Some people would shove as tight as KK+ only.
H2 I would go ahead and 4-bet. You still have some fold equity here and a pretty good hand if you get called. If UTG1 shoved, I would fold vs as he looks super nitty with his stats. I would call a shove vs MP as I think he's shoving at least QQ+, AKs.
H 1’s a classic “looks strong, but not enough.” AKs feels pretty but prints nothing vs nit shoves.
H 1’s a classic “looks strong, but not enough.” AKs feels pretty but prints nothing vs nit shoves.
Really bad advice.
Mandatory call of course, they have all the AKo, AKs in their range, you can't fold getting such good odds, that would be ridiculous.
Note your preflop cold 4bet size is not theoretically correct, you are supposed to 4bet smaller and let CO call you with AQs, pocket pairs and play a difficult pot out of position.
It would be really useful to have villain's 3bet stat in Hand #1 just to give us an idea of how comfortable they are in general with getting their money in pre-flop without premium holdings.
I don't play much full ring so not entirely sure how nitty 18/14s are.
However I don't see nitty players at these limits re-jamming over a cold-4bet (with an uncapped 3bettor also to act after them) with anything except for KK+ most of the time. With their AK and QQ they'll tend to instead flat the 4bet "to see where they're at".
