Help w/ Hand
Stakes: $0.10 / $0.25
My Position/$: UTG+1 [$60.41]
My Hand: Q♣ Q♠
Pre-Flop
UTG+1 [Hero]: Raises to $0.75
UTG+2: Calls $0.75
Dealer: Calls $0.75
Small Blind: 3-bets to $4.00
UTG+1 [Hero]: Calls $3.25
UTG+2: Calls $3.25
Dealer: Calls $3.25
Total Pot: ~$16.25 (after rake)
Flop ($16.25) Board: 2♥ K♠ J♣
Small Blind: Bets $5.78
UTG+1 [Hero]: Calls $5.78
UTG+2: Folds
Dealer: Folds
Turn ($27.81) Board: 2♥ K♠ J♣ 2♦
Small Blind: Shoves All-in ($14.97)
UTG+1 [Hero]: Folds
**Sorry if this formatting is odd, I didn't know exactly how to write it. I think I definitely should have reraised the $4 pre-flop, and I am leaning towards calling at the end, but unsure.
5 Replies
Fold flop
Agree with 5bet pre, maybe even jam if UTG+1 and 2 are not deep stacks. Villain was almost 1 SPR post flop.
I think I fold on the flop unless villain is a maniac.
Fold flop... super std if this guy is betting into 3 people in a 3-bet pot. You still have 2 to act.
All these comments that simply say that folding is standard are the most unhelpful thing ever. Say WHY it is standard. Otherwise you're just spouting out of context blah-blah. By the way, I don't think this is as straightforward or standard as people are making it out to be.
The preflop line is fine, and some other lines are also fine.
The interesting challenge is the flop. I think SB's PF range skews pretty strong; made even stronger by the fact that it's multi-way. The flop is somewhat dynamic where there are a number of outs that could change the nuts on the turn. Moreover I don't think SB is capped here - he could have the nuts now. What's more, SB is also likely inelastic, not quitting no matter what. So while that small-ish flop bet might feel like a potential signal of weakness, with everything else considered, I think that signal diminishes.
And think about what happens if you call - best case scenario, everyone folds behind you, and you're left with an effective SPR of a little less than one. Even IP, this is a gross spot to be in. Calling means you're committing, and if you ever fold a turn or river after calling flop, then I'd say that's a pretty strong signal that the flop was misplayed. So raise or fold.
The only thing you can raise is a jam here, so what happens if you shove? I think you have to think honestly about the relative value of your hand right now. Sure, he might be drawing. But range vs range, I'm playing this like we have SDV at best, very good chance we're no more than a bluff catcher. So if we shove, also remembering he's inelastic and never folding, we don't accomplish anything good here.
So at the end I think this is a fold here, and it kinda sucks.
