[Bodog/Bovada/Ignition] Unofficial Thread

This is an absolute gift! Thank you so much for taking the time to walk me through that! I really appreciate it man.

Traffic was on the uptick until the major lag & disconnect issues began a couple of weeks ago. Maybe it will return, autumn is usually good for the games.

I was thinking maybe cus the series is going on they changed the schedule a little. so maybe that triple headers arent running while the series is

anyone else think that the max late reg issue isn't as bad as what it was a few months ago?

5 months ago I swore off Bovada/Ignition because of the blatant stacking of late reg bots. Go back and read my thoughts on what was happening then, and if you do, know that I had proof of everything I said.

Fast forward to today and I played an $11 MTT for kicks and giggles and the bot problem is not nearly what it was at that time. Tables are now scrambled at the end of late reg so bot programmers can no longer control multiple tables by controlling and slow playing all 9 seats. The flow of play is still entirely too slow, but is consistent to the way the game "feel" was 5 years ago before this bot problem was exposed.

Other good news is that the frequent disconnect problem from the past might be fixed. I was not disconnected one time during the 4.5 hours I was in action. Previously back in summer the games were unplayable for this reason.

All in all MUCH IMPROVED. Let's see if that continues.

This. The disconnections were making the site unplayable, but if they’re fixed, I’d expect traffic to normalize.

Late reg bs is a lot better but the structures have consistently gotten worse and most are almost unplayable at the end of MTTs.

Did it just crash? I can't get the client to launch after shutting it down. Going to try mobile

Seems like the login/update mess is back.

How did they fix the late reg problem?

I think the change is now when you reg last minute, you get on a table all by yourself while you wait to get moved to another table once they rebalance a bit. It cuts down on the chances of getting a table full of late reg players stalling. You're still going to have a few late reg stallers at every table, so it still makes it unbearable until the bubble bursts.

Super annoying.

Customer support: "We'd like to inform you that the poker software is working perfectly on our end"

😀 😀

Classic.

I've frozen twice so far today. Fool me once, etc.

They love that one. "I just checked with out world class site reliability engineering team, all of whom hold multiple doctorates - and they've confirmed that everything is absolutely perfect on our end. They've never been wrong before because it's impossible - thus you must be the problem. Also, we've never heard of hand histories or bots, and, whatever way you're feeling - we're sorry that you're feeling that way. Is there anything else we can help you with?"

*Important*

I just got my poker account on ignition banned. Not the casino, but poker. Which almost makes this even more fishy tbh

They said they observed a chip transfer and I violated the rules. I never did. But that's it. Ban. They sent me an email early October saying this also as a warning. I unfortunately did not see it because it went to junk mail or I would have immediately contacted them to discuss what they saw.

I EXCLUSIVELY play hu sngs. I've played for an income for a long time. Even after the ridiculous structure change, I managed to make money. Not the ideal margins on an EV basis, but I was able to win the past month at a decent clip. I never played cash. I never played multis. So yes, it's a bit strange I could make a "chip transfer" at hu sngs don't you think? You can see right on the history. It's nothing, but hu sngs. So obviously I didn't ever "chip transfer." I'm not even sure if it's against the rules if you purposely tried to lose to someone at hu sngs tbh. I'm pretty sure this is cash and multi tourney specific. I tried talking to live support. They couldn't give me specifics as to what I did wrong.

I just emailed back. I'll see what they have to say about this. My guess is they won't give any specifics either. All I want is a time, date, table, etc. DOUBTFUL I'll hear back. But I'll let you know.

Either one of these 1 - They are just completely incompetent. Flagging accounts for the wrong reasons. etc. 2. They are purposely trying to ban winning players. Now this seems kinda wild. But I can't think of anything that should have triggered any flagging with my account.

You may recall me posting about bovada. They banned me there also about 2 months ago. I played there for 10 years. Out of nowhere, they accused me of colluding and being part of a betting syndicate. So it was not poker related. Now they ONLY ban me on ignition at poker lol. It's almost like they don't want me at poker because I've won (and no I don't use software I've just played hu for a really long time I'm obv experienced in that format) and they want me to play at the casino because they know I can't win there.

This is pretty much it for bovada/ignition guys. I don't see any reason for any winning player to attempt to play there. They've lost a lot of casual players. The structures suck. They'll look for a reason to screw you over. The fact that they can't even give you details on where you violated says a lot. It's because they know you did nothing wrong. So what are they gonna say?

I'd be interested to hear anyone's take on this who has played at bovada/ignition a while. Or just poker in general. What does this sound like to you? Just a mistake. Intentional? Again, I've never even played cash or multis on this site lol. Where could you even mistake a chip dump? And over the years, I've had hu games where a player disconnects and sits out and someone wins by default at hu sngs. That's just the nature of the format there's no way to prove that's intentional. You're getting juiced regardless. That rarely happens now anyway. The concept doesn't apply to headsup and if actually did it's practically impossible to prove someone is losing there unless you're raising 90% and folding to a jam repeatedly, etc. All the bot complaints have been at the multis - not headsup which is a totally different format.

so you got banned on bovada AND ignition? lol seems like you were breaking TOS

That's money laundering and yes it's not just against the rules of the site but also a crime.

As to everything else you not knowing that and being banned at both bovada and ignition makes me suspicious that you're guilty and not telling the truth. I'm just throwing that out there that you're story seems fishy to me at face value, but I could be wrong.

Now I'm going to assume that you're telling the truth and that you've done no wrongdoing. My guess is one player or perhaps multiple players have lost large amounts to you consistently and perhaps by sitting out so that they're essentially dumping the husng to you. This could trigger some sort of automated response to ban you maybe? Honestly the customer service there seems non-existent and outsourced to countries that don't speak English well so you might be screwed. Best shot is to try the forums for their website and hope to get some competent moderator. Good luck but I doubt you'll get unbanned.

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The bovada ban was related to a "betting syndicate" and abusing bonuses. I was on there for 10 years. I got referred back in the mid 2010s by a player I met through one of the other main poker sites. I made low six figs every year in poker, but lost a ton in betting. I did make a lot of live bets mainly to hedge other bets. Could look suspicious, but I lost well into 6 figures. So that never made sense. Why get rid of a player who gives you a ton in poker rake and gives you back way more at sports. That would never happen in a real casino. I'd get free rooms and dinners with that business. Again though, if I was doing something wrong, why get rid of me after 10 years? Why not year 2? Or year 4? I did nothing different in 2017 than I did in 2022, or 2023, or 2025.

The ignition ban says they saw a chip transfer. I mentioned I only play hu sngs. Chip transfering isn't even a thing at hu sngs. If you want to tranfer money to one player, you can just use the player to player option. Why juice yourself? Now obviously if you're colluding at multi, chip dumping makes sense. I never played any tournaments though. Or cash. Wasn't my thing. That wasn't my expertise. And again even if you can't chip dump at hu sngs or whatever, and that's a legit rule, it has to be pretty clear you're doing it at hu tables. The variance is so high, the players are so random game to game. It's just impossible to prove, not to mention even if for whatever bizarre reason you did do that the concern is with the greater player pool that gets affected. That happens at multis where the other players get cheated, or in cash. Hu is like whatever.

I'll wait and see if they tell me where it happened. I doubt it. In the end, this really looks like igntion/bovada just wants to get rid of winning players. They made the structure changes a month ago. They knew that would increase variance.

I've made a decent living playing here. I have better stuff to do than whine and complain on a forum about something that isn't true. But this is just awful. This is a part of my income that's being taken away because of utter incompetency and/or corruption. I warn any winning player that you're not safe at all on this site. For the life of me, I can't think of anything that would have flagged my account. Nothing but hu sngs, and hardly any games even where a player gets disconnected and they blind out where you could try to make some ridiculous accusation it was on purpose. That stuff has happened for years btw disconnects happen and you can easily see it's not on purpose. Also, since the changes last month there haven't been any regs I've played a ton of games against, or a lot of fish that have rematched a bunch of times, or even any sit outs or weird moves that might look suspicious. None of it makes sense. I've thought about all of it.

I'm up about 6-7k the past month at hu since the changes. It's decent. Not insane. All hu sngs. Where are they getting the chip transfer from? It's anonymous. You don't know who you're playing. REGARDLESS, you have to let the player know what specifically they did. Where is the date? The table number? The time? If you're trying to ban someone simply because they're winning then ofc you're not gonna provide info on that.

THE KICKER - Ignition still let me use the casino! LOL. Just not poker. If you really think a guy is cheating, are you really gonna let him use the casino room and not the poker room? That makes no sense man. You ban the account entirely. I still was able to withdraw btw. They'll still let me in the casino because they know it's impossible to win there.

Ignition/Bovada has the worst management of any major poker/casino network I've ever seen. I have a VIP elite status at Betonline. Can't really do much in poker there dead room, but I was on there a ton back in the 2010s betting and poker before the poker room became unplayable. They treat me great over there. And I've given them probably 25% of the business as bovada and ignition.

This is disgraceful. Bovada and Ignition deserve to totally go under. They aren't grateful for any long term loyal customers. It's bad enough to not have a legit VIP program. It's worse to ban players out of nowhere and not even give them details on why they did it.

I might do a youtube channel at some point. It won't be about poker or gambling. But I may have to make a side video explicitly telling people to totally stay away from bovada/ignition. You can try betonline, bookmaker, or a bunch of offshore books. Obviously you go elsewhere for poker if you live outside the USA. I'm just beyond pissed and they're bleeding action so much I was one of the most valuable players they had. It's a joke.

*Bovada kicks me off for claiming I violated sports betting rules and abusing bonuses - chip dumping was never mentioned there even though I played for a living doing poker on bovada. Ignition, same platform, kicks me off for chip dumping. I wasn't doing anything at Ignition different than bovada. If I was chip dumping on Ignition, you'd think that would have been listed as a reason for the ban at bovada as well. I exclusively played hu sngs at bovada too. But no! Ignition doesn't have sportsbetting so they need a different reason so they come up with the chip dumping bs. The lack of consistency makes it look like they're just throwing crap out there. You have autonomy at the end of the day they can do whatever they want.

All looks like a move to get rid of winning players, which is crazy because they need regs to bring in games at sngs. And btw most of the hu regs have left. I know this is a long post, but piece this altogether. I'm not sure what forum on the site to post this complain btw feel free to know. I'm not optimistic about it

I'm a winning player. I'm not getting banned. Maybe because I don't break the rules? Lol.

Good luck in the new room, heads-up genius.

Let me reiterate this

THEY BANNED ME FROM POKER, BUT NOT FROM THE CASINO at ignition. LOL. Obviously, they realize I win at poker, but I won't win at the casino so that's why they're allowing that. Come on guys. ALSO, I PLAYED AT BOVADA FROM 2015 to 2025. Why on god's green earth would it take them that long to ban me if I did something wrong? Again to be specific though, bovada and ignition are sister sites. Bovada banned me a couple months ago despite being up a million plus dollars in rake and sports on me. I moved to ignition and they banned me about a month in. Bovada banned me claiming I was part of a sports betting syndicate, ignition for chip dumping. Both false. I was making 6 figs a year playing hu sngs at bovada from 2015-2024. They wanted to get rid of all the players making money at the games. They changed the format to get rid of all those players. It worked. They had a few leftover players. I somehow managed to still win so they had to come up with a different reason to ban me. I obviously had a period to make money there, but the reality is they don't want long term big winners there anymore no matter how much action they bring.

They have lost a ton of players. Some clown in the math department concluded they were losing too much at hu sngs so let's get rid of every reg there! So that's it. You can't play 200 hu now. They got rid of the regular speed hu tables, now just turbos with blinds raising at 3x the rate. They're in total desperation. They don't have enough casual players coming in and their solution is to totally @%^# every reg on the site in the $%@ and make it either impossible to win or just ban them. It's no longer a site you can make an income off of. If you do, they'll do what they did to me.

Yeah, I'm angry. I put in a lot of work. You want to make it difficult to win. That's bad enough. You make up some phony crap to ban me because I still win despite you trying to make the games as hard to beat as possible? It's ridiculous. But again, 90% of all the hu regs are gone. They all left a month ago.

Look at Vegas. The way they priced out normal people. It's a city for the wealthy now. You can't make an avg salary and visit there. It's now for high status people. We're seeing the dark side of capitalism now. The worst it's ever been.

The USA is a joke. Let's be real here. If you're in the 30-40 age bracket, you know the decline I'm talking about. It's everywhere.

How about Youtube shafting content creators the last month? I just saw that a few days ago. Revenue way down for a lot of middle of the pack channels. Everyone is just getting anally stuffed right now. It never ends. We're in for crazy turmoil the next 10-15 years in all phases of life in this country

If you're a super casual player, sure you can play at bovada or ignition. That's their market. You want to make money there? Game mostly over. You either lose to the juice, or they claim you're colluding and ban you. Bovada coulda banned me 8 years ago. They did it right after they totally cratered a few months ago though. After the panick set in. They don't care about me making 1k a night during covid with a million new players a day there. But they sure do care when traffic stalls out and maybe they could make a few hundred more from the casuals at the casino, sportsbook, etc. I'm one of their top moneymakers the past decade, but hey who cares. He's taking too much from players who might lose more playing other games designed to lose at at an even higher rate

You can play anywhere else and you'll never get treated as badly as you do here. I only stayed here as long as I did because it was my job essentially. It was a reliable income. Now I don't think it makes sense for anyone to play. Professional players or casuals. This site has no respect for human beings. It's the worst I've ever been on in terms of customer support. Everyone with a history there knows the score with the business model there. They think as long as they reliably payout people there they can get away with anything. That's how they think. I believe bovada goes under in the next 10 years. They got nothing to offer that's different from other sites. Their poker traffic is down like 60% in the peak hours. You can bet on draftkings and fanduel now. Poker is harder to beat fewer recreationals care to play in it, especially in the USA. Bovada/ignition are a ticking time bomb.

I emailed at 5 pm asking for info on where I "chip dumped" - it's 5 am now nothing back lol. Shocker! This is like living in F'ng North Korea

Yes - not being able to play online poker in the USA is exactly like living in North Korea.

FWIW - I stopped playing on here (voluntarily) earlier this year, but I never once had an issue with security or getting my money in the almost 18 years that I played on Bodog/Bovada. However, I never did anything remotely shady either so...

This makes total sense if their concern is that you're chip dumping / money laundering.

That said, the whole thing is a little rich coming from a shady offshore bot infested non-audited non-regulated site.

So what's your problem? If you were winning even under these conditions, go to any other site and make money. Stop whining.

I'll repeat, HU was removed because every room in the world has cartels with tipsters who play perfect HU. Thanks to Ignition for removing this nonsense.

Make Bovada great again.

Played another suspicous hand at plo

After looking at the hands the bb who had normal reggish stats turns up with an abosolute absurd hand to float the turn with, however it makes sense when his colluding mate has the nut flush blockers for him.

Please play on this site with caution, the site is filled with colluders and cheaters and the anonymous aspect only helps these scumbags.

There a minimum of 2 bots/cheaters/colluders on every table. Some people who have looked into this have concluded that about 50% of the player pool are bots. I remember a little while back when Ignition implemented the website log in, most of the action died mysteriously and there were no players at all. Just scroll back a few pages and you will see it. The bots were temporarily down and you could feel the difference in play immediately. I play no-limit but the amount of flatting and back raising is so ridiculous that its predictable. You open CO, SB flats, BB squeeze. They are looking for you to call so SB can jam. 4 bet any 2 and they fold. The bots also love 3 betting bb vs sb with any 2. 4 bet any 2 from the sb vs the bb and they fold. Theres also over limping back raising with middling hands. Just jam 2 high cards. you are flipping at worst if they call.

This site has become too much and Im moving on. Not that many options in the US these days but Coin poker seems to have the best security so ill be heading there to play against other humans.