Wacky SCOOP Hi 2-7 TD HU hand

You usually bluff when you catch your worst possible card on the last draw. So top pair is often one to bluff. Unless you're against an opponent who calls too much, then you never bluff, just value bet wider. Both players appear to be lagtards, based upon their first round betting. It is one thing to open with 27(22K) or 27(77A), a D3 with blockers. But 27(KJJ) is a bad open unless they were on the bubble, or you thought the blinds were over-folding. And 3-betting the 238(AQ) when out of position is also horrible. If instead it was the SB playing that hand, it is different, as they are 3-betting to make sure the BB gets out of the way.

Just to clarify, this is HU for the tournament win, so both predraw lines are probably OK.

top pair bluff is standard, but curious about the raise with 77 and the b3b with 88. I suppose blocking 77 and 22 for BU its probably a fine raise and OK to YOLO in a 4bet once in a while. Not blocking any 7s I think the B3B might be dicey and should maybe be reserved for 887 or 877 runouts given the number of value combos..

Yeah, being heads-up negates most of my comments about their pre-draw play.

I don’t think he wants to block sevens at all to make this three bet as he wants him to have a pair of 7s.

I think D2 on turn instead of D1 to a ten is close but ok. Taking a hit/cold equity hit but have more implied and OOP may overbluff.

Tossing the Ten on the last draw to D2 is a pretty large mistake

Yeah, he did that in position against a D1, so just horrendous.

I remember also watching that video.

It is from a 2024 tournament. I just watched both of those. I find it hard to believe the player discarded TT and drew 2 on 3rd draw. Couldn't find the hand though.

Generally, people bluff when they pair the highest card. They both thought they didn't have showdown value. Usually, they fold when they bluff and get raised. Usually, also they don't try raising as a bluff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNGerjc1...

Here's the link from a recent $1K. Should start just before the hand at 1:30. He really does fold 2 Ts and draw 2 after BB draws 1.

Disagree with notion that D2 is very bad, in moment I’d probably D1to T as well but think it’s at least close.

Looks like D2 is 36.5% and D1 is 43% for a difference of 6.5%. We are just talking about going from median of approx JT low when D1 to a Kj when D2. But when D2 can make some really strong hands and OOP D1 can possibly undervalue/overbluff river.

The pot size matters when looking at differences in hot/cold equity and flop checked through. So it comes down to river play and it’s close. Depends much on how well the OOP plays D1 vs D2 river

I think preflop is fine HU. If it were 5-handed at the final table, then opening 72 without blockers on the button in some situations would be fine. You generally want to open looser if you are a big stack and there are short and medium stacks in the blinds. Not just to steal more predraw. They may make mistakes, like tight folds, and missing value bet and bluffing opportunities. Also, maybe looser with a bad player in the blinds. When it is an issue so fine, like the hand is playable with blockers, the tournament situation is probably more important.

Even in cash, often the play is loose, and this hand plays well multiway. You probably want to open tighter in general if you don't have much chance to steal predraw, but this hand plays better against loose calls than most.

That being said, I watched the replay videos and some in fairly high buyins were going into HU ahead and losing it mainly by playing too loose predraw. Some were playing almost every hand HU. Someone was playing any single low card. Pretty sure playing like 45 is terrible, and even 345 is probably not playable.

Most of the people on Stars on these replays now are Europeans, and there isn't a tradition of mixed limit games there, maybe mixed PL games in some places live.

In general, in mixed games tournaments, big stacks tend to overdo playing loose/aggressive. However, you need to make some adjustments, and should generally open significantly looser than the standard preflop charts.

It might be fine in some situations for a big stack to open 2 and and card 8 or less from the button without blockers, and similarly open some bad 2-card draws.

Any 2 to a wheel is an open HU with no rake. 345 is absolutely printing I would say.

Some of those videos, I saw people opening or defending HU with just a 4 or 5 and drawing 4, which I think is really bad. Just a 2 is playable. You probably know more the exact ranges.

Pot has 10 sb, I consider a 0.65 bb mistake to be pretty large. Did you run those equities vs villain's exact hand? Because the mistake will be even larger when villain has a weak draw (which he should have plenty of)

Pot is 5BB so difference in 6% breaking is around .3 of a BB and then need to account for river play too which OOP may not play well against the D2. It may be a large mistake if there was dead money from blinds and a flop bet and we were breaking off more equity but thatÂ’s not the case in this spot.

Forget what I did, probably used his actual hand but once heÂ’s D1 to an 8 or 9 which is probably his most likely hands I donÂ’t it skews it that much. Could possibly be wrong, I guess if you are saying heÂ’s leading D1 to T(we block two) and jacks it can change things a little bit.

But regardless would still probably label this at most a small mistake.

We are saying the same numbers except you rounded them down in this latest post, 0.65 big blinds is 0.325 BB.

Weak draw = I meant how about when he has a gutshot? Anyway I agree that part isn't a big deal but 0.65 bb I think is a big error, shrug

Yes, it’s same but I like to think in terms of big bets. And I would agree that .325 is an error to be avoided. I just don’t think it is on order of .325 especially if OOP makes some errors against D2 on the river.

just think that a D1 to a ten might lose around .37 bb on river but a D2 to a 237 might lose a little less say .17 bb. Numbers are made up and might very well be wrongish but if sort of correct in total combined it might be (.325 - .20) =0.125.

So that’s why I said I’d draw to T in that seat but overall an error is on the smaller side