Lucy's Fur Tourney Results

Forgot to add the important hand from the above tourney.

https://play.globalpoker.com/gp/10/hand/...

It’s a pretty standard metamorphosis you are experiencing. Tournament player wins a few buy ins and dusts them off in a cash game. Starts to like cash and playing well in cash will then ruin your tournament play. Then plo will ruin holdem.

Keep playing and posting.

Another first place; I captured the final table on OBS. I have most my wins final tables and actually for some; I have damn near the whole tournament.

I think I'm going to narrate and upload my final tables; but I also think they should probably be edited down to the hands I was in.

I'm also working on releasing the 'core concepts' from the poker book 'Kill Everyone'. When I finish reading it; I'll post the core concepts on 2+2. So far I'm done taking notes for part one, and have begin reading part 2.

I've been playing less volume; for my sanity and so I can focus on improving by educating myself from others. Not for nothing; focusing on playing the best I can, rather than playing as many as I can a day; just feels better. I'm happier that way.

I've also had chat muted for quite a while; and I feel myself calming down a bit. At some point I'll unmute chat again, but I've been feeling toxic; as I get harassed by admittedly good players on a daily basis. They just can't accept losing a hand to me, and I'm not a strong enough to person to endure that relentlessly...so the easy answer was to mute chat for the time being.

I took a shot at 100 NL cash game; just about broke even at that level. Lost like 10, but I feel like I held my own for the most part. It was way out of my comfort zone though. I cycled through 3 buyins to lose that 10; so it had me on edge. At some point I will be able to play cash games at that level; but my bankroll doesn't support it right now; so I'll stick to 20NL or 10NL until I can acquire enough of a bank roll through tournaments.

Above is another 2nd in a tournament. Below is how my average cash games are going.

https://play.globalpoker.com/gp/10/hand/...

you won a few micro tournies and now you think you can easily re build your roll whenever by hopping in an MTT

Boy oh boy, are you in for a treat when you realize you were just on the positive side of variance.

Lots of people think this way, i did as well when i binked a few tournaments. Took me a while to realize MTTs really are volatile as F***

*Rolls eyes heavily and mutes user.

I just can't be ****ed to deal with you guys any more; I get banned to much for these interactions; so my solution is simple; I will no longer engage with them.

how's it been going? any updates?

I've stopped playing for the time being because I feel like I'm cheating.

I can win about 10-15% of the time, but I'd argue 8% of that is due to one specific exploit that is not based on player, but on exploiting their RNG.

Yes, I could use it to print money; and I somewhat did for a time there. I don't like it though. It's cheating, and cheaters are f***ots.

I'm not using any external tools; just noticed a pattern, realized one specific spot is 'rigged' or 'exploitable' if you know what to look for. To an insane degree.

So now I'm playing (and losing) in cash games until my bankroll dries up. Even playing slots. I just have no interest in playing on a crooked site; even if I can abuse it in one specific case.

I'm sure the website has it's defenders, but I think anyone who plays sufficient volume can tell you at the very least 'something is not on up and up', while others can probably point you to the specific exploits. I've only noticed one; but it's so impactful to outcomes of tournaments, that it bothers me.

Again; if it was a player exploit -> I'd be ok with it. It's an RNG exploit though.

Had GP run an honest game; I'd not quit, and I'd likely have played on their website for years. As it is; if they shut down the site tomorrow; it'd not be soon enough, and I actually do support the government shutting it down. That wouldn't be the case if they just ran an honest game. They can lie all they want and say they are; but...I'm not going to argue, and nothing they say can convince me because words don't cost money for them to say.

The only reason I'm willing to play ring games; is because I have no idea how that's rigged, or how to exploit the rng in that. Otherwise I'd only play slots until the $$$ dries up. Not connecting my bank account to this site; I really don't trust them, and they've done nothing to deserve players trust.

Well that escalated quickly! Reminds me of "A beautiful mind"

You have to tell us what the exploit is. Perhaps, it is getting your money all in while behind?

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Above is another 2nd in a tournament. Below is how my average cash games are going.

Isn’t this a tournament hand? He had 25% chance in winning that hand when the money went in. It’s a bad call but hardly a horrible bad beat.

Very close but there's also the aspect of folding premiums in those very same spots if you're ahead.

I've written the method publicly before; so I'll do it again. I'm also fairly convinced that they will at some point change this. I don't know when. Likely when too many people catch on or they get called out for it.

Step 1.) Look at stack sizes

Step 2.) Are you or someone at your table top stack or just about top stack?

Step 3.) Go look at leaderboard, grouping occurring? No outlier above rest of pack? (Stacks stagnating around the same level. 18k to 22k chips, 40k to 45k chips for the top stacks in the entire tournament are example levels you'll notice)

Step 4.) Fold or Jam based on if you are mid stack or top stack.

- You're mid stack (20bb+) vs top stack? JAM T4o.
- You're top stack vs mid stack? FOLD ACES.

(The above hands are not precise, it's to show you that you fold premiums if top stack, and you jam stupid things if mid stack in the given scenario)

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There's probably slightly more that needs to be said; but I don't want to overly complicate the method. I think the above is enough information to pull it off, without being bogged down by extra crap. Below, I'll put some of that 'extra crap'.

- It appears to be caused by some sort of DDA system, which their parent company owns the patent for
- Insignificant stack sizes (less than 10% of the stack your facing) MAY* be unaffected by the DDA. Meaning, only do this when mid stacked or lay down hands when top stacked.

How I found this?

- By consistently being top stacked early in tournaments and then getting premiums.

I noticed that they (Aces/Kings) were failing in an exact spot (being top stacked against any other stack) at a rate that exceeded the EV. I opened up excel, and over the course of 40-50 tournaments, found 30 spots where it applied. I tracked each win/loss for premiums and type of premium in this exact spot.

The W/L for this very specific spot; was 0/30. Once I got to that point; I stopped tracking it; and started abusing it.

I then routinely watched top stacks lose their stacks to mid stacks by going all in with premiums in those very specific spots.

During this entire time, I was looking for ONE person to defy the odds and win their premiums. This did not occur, and I was looking at EVERYONE. Not just my hands.

As far as grouping occurring, you'll notice that tournaments aren't having 'sun runners'. The people move up in stages together on the leaderboard. This isn't evidence as much as it's a clue to how it works. I'm convinced the easy and simplest answer is DDA.

(If you see someone on leaderboard with 10k or more chips above the rest; do not play the exploit I detailed; as that is signifying that it's time for groups to move up; and it will allow top stack to win their premiums)

The way you test this yourselves is what was detailed; but you may need multiple tournament entries to see one of these spots for yourselves. If you routinely get top stacked early on; you're mostly where you need to be to test this, but...you also have to have all variables align. (Be top stack, timing, getting the premiums while top stacked and going all in pre).

I think I forgot to mention that part. All data was collected from all in pre flop hands. YMMV if you don't all in pre.

If not for the fact I've legitimately ruthlessly tested this; I'd not be so confident in talking about it. If even a single instance went against my belief; I'd not post this.

Edit: I'm also fairly certain this is why you have people complaining about people jamming T4o like hands vs their AA, and beating AA. You'll occasionally see people say 'why would he even jam that?' and I routinely tell them in game 'because it's meta and it's an exploitable spot'. They never understand the true depth of that statement, and instead think I'm talking 'player exploit' not 'rng exploit'. I think many people know this 'exploit'; they just don't discuss it openly because they'd rather make money off it; and I'd rather play an honest game of poker -> So I openly discuss it.

This hand?

https://play.globalpoker.com/gp/10/hand/0de0530f-8af6-30f1-8ce3-3a81c7cd0c2b

This is not a tournament hand, it is a cash game hand, and the odds are not 25% chance of him winning that hand when money went in. The odds of him hitting a full house or 4 of a kind are roughly 20%.

Hypothetically 3 queens left; 3 jacks, 3 nines, and 1 five. Any of these save him. You can shortcut the math by multiplying outs by 2 from turn, or multiple outs by 4 from flop.

10 x 2 is 20%. It's not exactly right, it's probably closer to 21-22% on an equity calc from point of all in.

You are correct though; it's not that bad. Didn't claim it was a bad beat. Said 'this is how my cash games are going' as in, I'm favored at point we go all in, and lose by time we see river (consistently).

Thanks, but I don't have a beautiful mind. The guy your thinking of is way above me mathematically.

I just happen to be mathematically inclined and have a habit of creating formulas (sometimes I rediscover old formulas, and other times they are brand new)

IE: I have a formula that is multidimensional series that tells you the amounts of combinations that can be made. Distinctly different from the classic NcK formula (the combination formula that is taught in school is the NcK formula).

I wrote a paper on the formula, and had it checked for validity. I broke it down into binary so I could show where the pattern is emerging from.

I think you're missing the point, go watch it again. Also, I'm not sure if you're trolling or not and at this point I'm afraid to ask.

I'm aware of what you were implying; but if I respond negatively; mods ban me. I don't remember how many ban points I'm at; but at 100 I'm perma'd.

I don't understand why I get banned for calling you guys names, but you're allowed to harass like this.

You know what; I'll just PM you my insults.

Very mature of you delululu lil kid

Same.

This might come as a shock to you, but insulting people via PM is not allowed either. So I hope you were joking.

If you feel a post is offensive, you can report it. A mod will then take care of it - if necessary.

Last but not least: a negative reply is not necessarily against the rules. This is especially true for BBV. A sarcastic remark or something like that is usually fine, as long as it doesn't get personal.

I dont know how I ended up in this thread, but LOL.

Nggghhhhhhhhhh have exploit, can print.

*plays $1 tournies*

Exactly how long have you been a scientist?

You're under the assumption I enjoy cheating people out of their money. Once I confirmed it; I stopped playing tournaments.

I want to win because I'm a better player; not because I can exploit a faulty RNG.

Please lock this thread; I'm done with tournaments due to the exploit. I know people won’t believe me and think it's crazy not to take advantage of it.

I refuse to exploit a broken RNG at others' expense. I used it to profit until I was sure it was real. How else do you think I went from losing to making $3k? It's a real exploit. Look at my graph.

Some play poker for money; I play for the love of the game. Whether you believe in the exploit doesn’t matter to me. I’m just going to get harassed by those who can’t accept it.

Could it be just extended variance that happens every time I've used it? Sure.

Am I convinced it’s not variance and that I’m exploiting something obvious? Absolutely.

If you want to profit, I've shared the blueprint. (-$500 to +$2,500 ish)

Please lock thread because I won't be updating it; and there will only be arguments moving forward.

I may be crazy; or maybe I just did EXACTLY what the anti-riggies said. They said "If you think it's rigged in a certain way; play as if it is". I did that; profited. I fully expected it not to work when I tried it. It did work though.

Look at the sharkscope, from 1500 games losing $500, to winning $3k in less than 250 games. I mean; at a certain point you can lead a horse to water; but you can't make them drink.

(The reason it's not all rise; and some sideways movement is due to the exploit being a very specific situation, and not always possible to pull off - I do NOT use any external tools - They aren't needed and the exploit goes against what a GTO solver would say - I don't know how long the exploit will be viable; probably until they fix whatever is causing it)

Just when you think im done with 2+2 they pull me back in with these kind of threads.

Was I cheating for almost two years and then quit.... or is variance just going to be super high in MTTs with a relatively fast structure and I had a crazy two year run on the site?

I really need to get back to cheating again....