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Hello everyone!
For more than 10 years our PokerPopUp workshop gives you the best servise in Huds and Pop-up developement.
And now we, in cooperation with our solver related specialist, are happy to announce the new service of ready-to-go preflop solutions [B]gtopacks.com[/B]
Nowdays many people work with solvers to gain more advantage in their game. We made a research and find out a variety of problems that any typical solver user may face:
1. Poor quality calculation that leads to incorrect outputs which is hard to analyse
2. Lack of specific knowledge or server power to create accurate simulation output
3. Time consuming tasks, whether it will be the tree creation or PC/Server time usage
Our service can solve any of these global problems.
What we offer:
1. Big amount of preflop solutions for variaty of disciplins. Our solutions are grouped into sets of packages, that can cover maximum variations of opponents preflop sizings. These solution packages cost cheap, but they are based on high quality & accuracy.
2. Preflop and postflop trees creation. The calculation and individual requests acceptance with your own unique income data (sizings, stack sizes, discipline etc.). We are ready to work with the large variaty of tasks, to run preflop sims with any rake(or without rake) including preflop-rake based poker rooms as GG network. Your simulation could be unique.
3. Free customer support and consultation during every stage starting from the client's requests till the release of the final product
4. Gtopacks.com are always open to correction according to the wishes and requests of our buyers. After you Place an Order all corrections will be done for free before Gtopacks.com will release you the final personalized creation.
5. Any complication arising from your personal creation request will be handled. You can request whether preflop or postflop tree of any complexity. Any leinght, ICM, any stack depth.
You may ask, "So, for what reason I should have it?"
* Preflop sims help to understand how you should defend against variety of sizings much better and also they help to understand how you should attack your opponents with given PFR/3Bet/4Bet sizings on each rake level conditions. (Strategies may differ according to rake differens between the stakes)
* Our packages help to improve understanding of frequencies that field should have GTO wise, which leads to understanding of how we should deviate our strategy from GTO numbers to make an exploit.
* From preflop simulations you can take ranges or whole trees and integrate it into SimplePostflop or PioSolver using "two clicks". This approach to postflop learning is very accurate and simple (it's not take a long time or energy to build a tree and to insert or to create ranges by your own). Usage of the handmade ranges leads to bad results. Solver prefers to work with ranges that are computed and not made by hand.
* Often ranges from 100bb depth are not compatible with say 150bb game whether it will be preflop or postflop. Using incorrect ranges may have very large negative impact on your strategies without you even knowing that.
* You will have ability to get high quality trees optimized for postflop simulations as much as possible. This abillity requires certain professional skills and computing power which we do have.
You can see the video of how the solver looks like and how to operate with it & with our packages by clicking this [B]link[/B].
We often will be trying to prepare something new and unusual for you! We have a number of interesting ideas.
Feel free to ask any questions here or by the following contacts:
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Hello everyone, we want to remind you about our main advantages
So this:
⏺Refinement of ready-made packages for the client (upon request)
⏺Free client management at all stages from
technical specifications before issuing an order
⏺Highest quality and accuracy of preflop decisions
Hello everyone!!!
We're coming to you with news, just so you know!!!❤️
❗️We have released a number of new NLHE packs
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We currently have a long-awaited pack for GG 9max Ante=SB in development
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1. We have reduced the price of most of our preflop packages in the gtopacks.com store (Products with a reduced price have a crossed out price)
2. We have released a new GG poker pack for cash drops! The pack is very extensive and includes many effective solutions, including with limp. The set of sizings and solutions is more diverse compared to our competitors, and the solutions are more accurate. The cost of the pack is minimal, and there is even a sale before the official release!
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Hello everyone!
We have good news
We have developed a pack 9max Ante=SB 200bb stack for gg poker
What's inside?
There will be several big decisions and several small ones inside.
We decided to highlight the main open raises that regulars use in these games.
These are opens 3x, 3.5x, 4x. For these opens we have three large separate trees. There are also less popular sizes, for which we have prepared smaller trees. These are 2.5x and 5x+limps. In order for both the cost price and the final cost of the pack not to be too high, we decided to allow that in our decisions the first two positions (UTG) will always play fold. For smaller trees: 2.5x - RFI starts only with CO, and for limp tree - the game is built around BU-SB-BB positions.
The calculations will be done for games with NL200 GG + preflop rake. But they are also great for other limits, because many people don't even understand how to play preflop.
Contacts:
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Hello everyone!
Decided to make an account and kick in this thread as a co-founder and technical specialist of the GTOPacks project.
The last post about new GG pack has small missinformation.
From here I want to clarify and describe the details so lets get right into it!
If you are GG 9max ante player, i strongly recommend to read this post.
So first things first, the pack has no analogs anywhere in the internet, so we are happy to be the first who made this kind of solutions.
What means "pack"? It means, that we made a multiply solutions and combined them into a package. Usually different solutions in pack can cover either another set of 3bet/squeeze/4bet sizes, or as here at this GG pack - different sizes of RFIs in each solution. So basically this pack can cover many scenarios that you can face in game giving almost any preflop opening size.
This pack already made success while we sell it on the russian speaking community, and it still have big demand. At first, pack has only few solutions (and this is what Funpokerrr brought in his last msg), but through time people asked as to make some custom additions to it, and almost all this additions we decided to add to existent pack and made them for free. So for now we have actually even more solutions all in 1! That means that for that price pack has now much much more value, specially if to compare with standard 6max solutions. We also have one small cost update (addon), but $/value in it still incredible. (more detailed info you will know from a link provided at the end)
Why else you would want to get it?
It will close many many spaces for you, because game is much less studied and much less intuitive, this means that your view of this game may be very different from gto. Our solution will change that.
Many our customers who bought it told us from the start that this is a complete gamechanger. And there are so many spots which they saw so much differently, so the pack pays out superfast!
So the correct info for today is that this pack includes solutions for following RFIs:
For NL200 (bi 200bb) we have 3x, 3.5x, 4x, 5x, and 2.5x from CO. Usually all solutions starts from 3rd position, because first two is very difficult to build and solve. But for the most common RFI size 3x we have the whole tree. Some solutions require 500GB RAM to solve. For example just first UTG position for 3x open required almost 400GB ram to solve.
For now you still have super huge chance to very fastly gain many edge on your opponents just using this preflop, and keeping in mind pre ranges for pre and postflop game development.
To get this pack, or to ask any questions just message us in following apps. But don't delay, because every days is a lost of a winrate.
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Just purchased a solution pack, everything went smoothly. I received the solutions in just a few minutes! They even sent me back a 10% discount because I was a 2+2 member (I didn't notice the discount mentioned here but they still offered it back). Great guys, ranges look good, super value!
This article is brought to you from a member of our team who also happens to be a technical specialist (kostya1q1).
Hello everyone!
Not long ago I decided to return to the game (I haven't played for over a year because of our project) and started testing different options for working on the game. Not long ago, the another tool became the gtowizard. And I have some interesting info with examples for you that I want to show about this tool. As it turns out, this happen to be a long read, so make some coffee and enjoy reading!
Considering postflop, it became clear rather quickly that the basic 50$ subscription does not provide everything I want from the software. Bet sizes are not what I want them to be in many cases and in some spots, the critical lines that influence the strategy on a fundamental level and massively affect the logic of a specific hand, are simply not there. This was mostly noticeable in BvB spots; in other spots, it was a bit better. However, when I first saw a 150$ version with custom trees, everything changed! (Although it began to resemble your ordinary solver, but whatever). Please note that I myself haven’t yet bought a 150$ subscription.
So, I didn’t really like the $50 version for postflop solutions. However, the main reason for purchasing Wizard for me was the trainer. To be honest, GTOWizard has the best trainer in terms of functionality and UI of all that are currently on the market. I really liked the fact that you can look at how you should play your entire range in any spot in a separate window in real time. However, the depiction of the opponent's range is uninformative for some reason, which is really weird, but okay. Nevertheless, I began to often notice different preflop lines (not all-in 5-bets, strange cold-calls), preflop sizes and even hands that I would say are extremely weird for some spots. Well, we have already talked about postflop before. Why are they weird? Now that’s a great reason to write this whole article for you and post it on the forum.
Let’s go over preflop in more detail, because it’s the basis of any trainer and any postflop decision. Wizard has a number of preflop trees and among a large number of these, I would say, there are only a few that use reasonable sizes. What trees are offered to us for the trainer work, to be honest, it is not very clear to me. Nevertheless, maybe I’m not experienced enough, but finding a reasonable game tree (preflop only) to work with always takes a lot of time and some nerves as well.
Recently, while working on a certain spot in the trainer, I noticed a horrible preflop solution. No matter how cool, fast and advanced GTOWizard is, it still has problems with poor preflop solutions. First, some technical data. We turned to a foreign consultant for help, who worked with analysts who conducted research on the quality of Wizard’s preflop solutions. The algorithms and bucketing systems are the same as those build into HRC, which is not good enough for the modern cash Hold’em calculations.
Let’s first introduce the definition of the quality of the solution, which is based on two parameters.
1. The depth of the solution (calculation time; NashDist);
2. The bucketing system and the number of buckets (In other words, the abstraction on which the preflop is calculated. Abstractions are basically characterized by the number of buckets. The more buckets, the better the solution. Preflop calculations are not possible without abstractions, because it would require an immense amount of RAM).
Talking to developers of such software, I noticed something they have in common; they all pay too much attention to point #1, and not enough to point #2. In the case of Wizard, the developers decided not to bother at all. Our consultant showed us a lot of different data, and from what we have seen we can say that if you translate it into buckets, then the preflop for Wizard ranges approximately from 1k-1k-1k to 1k-5k-5k. While the classic solutions for GTOPacks have 10k-100k-100k buckets. Our approach to iteration/nodes (calculation depth) is considered hybrid. Could be a lot of them, could be not so much. In the process of calculations, we use the quality check approach. Often the same number of iteration/nodes can show different quality depending on different factors.
Now let’s take a look at an example of how it looks in GTOWizard
Here is the spot: 3bet pot MPvsCO nl500 (3bet 7.5bb)
This is how it looks in Wizard
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There are 2 things we are interested in. You don’t need any special knowledge to see my point.
1. K6s in the 3-bet calling range, you must agree, is super weird. I can get behind 4-betting this hand, but calling it looks random.
2. The number of small pocket pairs 22-44. It seems we have too many of those in the preflop opening range to begin with (especially considering the number of pocket pairs that dominate us in villain’s calling range). And the open-raising frequency distribution is weird. You can see on the right, 22 opens 41%, 33 – 36% and then 44 again 41%.
3. The third point is less significant and not that noticeable, however it also looks strange to me. I am talking about the absence of A9o in the MP opening range. Of course, it could be caused by a SB’s cold-calling range, but the frequency should not be reduced to zero still. Upd: While I was writing this article, I put together a calculation on the fly regarding SB’s cold calling. 22 are not in the range anymore, while A9o opening remains the same 75%.
Now this is the solution for the same spot (except for the SB’s cold calling range and shoves, which do not affect the problems described above) with same 7.5bb 3bet from GTOPacks:
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1. As we can see, K6s is not in the defending range.
2. Pocket pairs, especially lower ones, are opened much less often and the frequency increases linearly, the higher the pair, the higher the frequency. 18.5% opening frequency for 22 looks much more reasonable!
3. We see 75% open with A9o.
While I was going over this Wizard sim, I also noticed some weird stuff in its SB defending range vs RFI. The notorious K6s is here again, more 22-33 than higher pairs and AKo is partly called:
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You might say it’s a small thing. And I would agree, those errors are probably not that significant. But what about the tree itself? Well, let’s say we 3-bet 10bb SBvsMP, why then the squeeze on BB is again 10bb after SB calls? Out of position it does not seem reasonable. At the same time, when BU and SB both call, then BB squeeze size is 16bb.
We can finish it with noticing the fact that in this preflop solution there are non-all-in 5-bets, including those that put 40% of the stack into the pot.
All these shortcomings add up and create a domino effect, where small inaccuracies change the outcome significantly. Of course, your average 50-100NL regular probably would not care at all. Although, there are still many questions about postflop branches, which are not played in real 50-100NL games and are mostly of no use to those players.
So, answering the most frequently asked question, how are we better than GTOWizard? The answer is quite simple. Preflop. The quality of solutions. At least of such simple solutions as described above.
Does this mean that you have to relearn and force yourself to study postflop solvers? Of course not! There is a universal solution! Wizard still has some great qualities. GTO trainer is great, the postflop tree creation interface is easy to handle and it still has the fastest solver algorithm. So why not combine GTOPack preflop solutions with GTOWizard’s functionality? You can import GTOPack ranges into the Elite version of GTOWizard without any problems. And the software for browsing our solution packs is very simple and intuitive, if you want to study preflop separately. Not to mention that the solution packs are quite cheap. We also provide full support for everyone who purchased our solutions and are happy to answer any questions. We also often refine our packs and add new calculations without changing the price. Very soon, we will present add-ons to the standard packs. We already have ideas on what we can add.
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We didn’t stop at this tree and decided to dig into the preflop solutions called “Research”, where there are many different sizes for each spot. We took 100NL calculations as a basis. Now please pay attention if you study these solutions for small stakes. The rake calculations in those are way off the norm. The standard rake cap for 100NL solutions is considered to be around 3bb. After some calculations, it was found that Wizard uses a rake cap of 6bb, which is twice above the norm. This is the equivalent of 50NL rake. So in postflop solutions for 50NL the rake may also be off.
So what did we do? We decided to recreate the tree starting from BU like in “Research” and see what the differences would be. The tree is quite large and to be honest with you, we decided not to waste a lot of precious server time, because we have already recalculated the tree with different rake, so the calculation depth is not that high. Because of that, the frequency distribution for some sizes may not be as accurate as possible. However, there are still some big differences even in choice of sizes, and there shouldn’t be any. This is an indicator of the low quality of GTOWizard’s solutions. I will attach the calculations for our tree below so that anyone can download it for free. Now I want to demonstrate the basic BBvsBU spot.
You can notice different things here, but the critical importance and a ‘leak’ is the presence of A4o combo in both wide 3-bet and calling action. In no simulations with such rake structure will you find such 3-bets or calls. Even with 500NL rake this combo is not a 100% call. And the 4-bet sizes in the tree are completely random. I will attach screenshots of Wizard’s and our solutions, for those who do not want to look for it themselves.
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Now a screenshot of our solution:
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You can download the calculations here
wizard vs gtopacks research.rar (2.3 megabytes)
I had to zip it because the site does not allow attaching other formats. To view the solution you need Simple PREflop Holdem. You can download it from simplepoker.com. License no need.
So, let’s summarize everything we went over in this article. GTOWizard is a very cool and handy tool to work on your game, but with a number of amendments. Its main disadvantages are incorrect preflop solutions and frequent “inaccuracies” in the selection of postflop bet sizes. If inaccuracies in postflop sizes can be fixed through custom postflop trees, using the Elite version of the software, it wouldn’t work for poor preflop solutions. Therefore, we recommend importing preflop solutions from GTOPacks into the Elite version of GTOWizard in custom postflop trees.
That would be all for today, my dear readers!
I sincerely hope that someone have read it top to bottom. Share it with friends and don’t forget to stay cool and smart!
Our contacts:
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Hello-hello!
We haven't posted any news for a long time, so here you go.
We continue to solve popular games and are preparing a new pack for GG 9max for NL500 for you. The new pack has completely new trees, with new sizes, based on analytics from range research.
We also analyzed the impact of ante differences at nl500 and nl200 (0.4bb vs. 0.5bb) on the strategy and turns out that this impact is quite big.
We highly recommend everyone who plays nl500 200bb 9max on GG to buy this pack, which will be released soon. The pack can also be purchased in pre-sale, but in the case of this pack - only at full price. The cost will not differ much from the pack for nl200.
The exact cost, composition of the pack, and the start of sales will be announced later.
What is presale? It is the option to buy packs that are not released yet, and get solutions one by one, as soon as each of it will get solved. Usually we offer 25% discount on this type of sellings.
Incase if you are not familiar to our existing pack for NL200 GG 9 max , [U]here is the link[/U]
Our contacts:
Telegram: @funpokerrr
Telegram: @kostya1q1
Discord: !funpokerrr#6788
Skype: funpokerrr
