55% win rate, 10BB/hr live. Do these match up with each other?
For 2024, I have 500 hours of live 2/3/5 NL, with an hourly win rate of $48/hr.
But I only won 55% of my sessions. It seems like a lot of regular winners here have a higher winning session ratio. But, as I understand it, 10BB/hr is pretty good. So does this mean I am running lucky with some big winning sessions? Should a long-term 10BB/hr winner win significantly more than 55% of sessions? Breaking down by months, I have 8 winning months, and 4 losing months this year.
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Maybe, but it depends. A 10BB/hr winrate would be equivalent to a roughly 40BB/100 winrate depending on how many hands you play and when you have this high of a winrate, downswings should be dramatically reduced if you just keep playing more hands, but if you're playing shorter sessions then each session doesn't really have enough sample size to realise the winrate as a "winning session".
I can't read any of this past the first sentences
10bb/hr * .55 = 6.2$/hour
ban op.
Maybe you should learn to think about things before you put up stupid nonsense like this. He says he makes $48 per hour, which with a big blind of $5 is just about 10BB per hour. And he has winning sessions about 55% of the time. That does NOT mean that he wins 10BB an hour 55% of the time.
my overall stat for the 2/5, 2/3/5, 5/5 game is 70% winning session and 30% losing session. Hourly rate of $80 over 1000 hours.
you're leaving out the most important facet, how many hours and how many sessions
sample size is everything
but on the surface this feels reasonable
and a lot of players have inflated winning session metrics because they care so much about it, it's not uncommon for someone to plan on playing a 4 hour session but calling it after 2 hours if they are up or turning it into a marathon session when they are stuck
people hate leaving the game stuck - why you get so many people just say f it and blind shove to either "double up or leave" if they are down
it's also the number one complaint i've heard from prop players, that they can't stand the fact that they could be stuck $200 and asked to get up to make room for a real player
Who cares about % of winning sessions? Even if you win 40% of the sessions or 10% of the sessions, all that matters is your hourly winrate.
for example you can be a tight player that loses a couple of blinds 90% of the time and then you get a couple of stacks 10% of the time. Exaggerated scenario, but you get the idea.
Maybe you should learn to think about things before you put up stupid nonsense like this. He says he makes $48 per hour, which with a big blind of $5 is just about 10BB per hour. And he has winning sessions about 55% of the time. That does NOT mean that he wins 10BB an hour 55% of the time.
I dunno im pretty sure my math checks out here
55% is within a very reasonable amount of sessions to win. I play professionally and win about 60%. I know others that are closer to 50% some even slightly below but their wins more than make to for it and they have good win rates.
Is there a straddle often in you games? Unstraddled this is a very good win rate. I think it is achievable long term for regs in a game with 3 regs and 6 average recs. Or slightly more regs + a few whales.
On the other hand, 500 hours is a small sample sizes. The stakes I play are all over the place, but in 2024 I made $56/hr over 1,328 hours. In 2023 I had a stretch of about 800 hours where I made around 175/hr. Within 2024 I had a 473 hour stretch where I broke even.
Bottom line, you've had a good hourly rate and your % sessions won is 100% in a reasonable range.
It doesn't. $48 an hour = $48 an hour. No matter what you do with it, it will not be $6.20 an hour. His win rate already takes into account all the wins AND losses. So the 55% is simply not relevant to his hourly, because he already gave you his hourly.
It doesn't. $48 an hour = $48 an hour. No matter what you do with it, it will not be $6.20 an hour. His win rate already takes into account all the wins AND losses. So the 55% is simply not relevant to his hourly, because he already gave you his hourly.
as a matter of fact, 48 hours = 2 days. you take the bb/100 (which is easy to convert because there's 100 minutes in an hour) and that leaves you with just about $6 per hour.
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55% is within a very reasonable amount of sessions to win. I play professionally and win about 60%. I know others that are closer to 50% some even slightly below but their wins more than make to for it and they have good win rates.
Is there a straddle often in you games? Unstraddled this is a very good win rate. I think it is achievable long term for regs in a game with 3 regs and 6 average recs. Or slightly more regs + a few whales.
On the other hand, 500 hours is a small sample sizes. The
There are occasional straddles, and there’s a small fraction of 2/3 games in there. But there are a lot of not-so-juicy weekday morning games in there. I’m probably running a little good over the whole sample, though I did have a 175hr break-even stretch in there. High variance.
BBV is no place for serious discussion.
the only argument we can soundly pull from this thread is that OP is a losing player fish bot. Nothing more.
Who cares about % of winning sessions? Even if you win 40% of the sessions or 10% of the sessions, all that matters is your hourly winrate.
for example you can be a tight player that loses a couple of blinds 90% of the time and then you get a couple of stacks 10% of the time. Exaggerated scenario, but you get the idea.
Most people. Winning is enjoyable.