My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

Hello everyone, I want to share with you my 20 days result with 50$ deposit on GGpoker

2NL was awful, after like 15k hand

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11 September 2023 at 12:13 PM
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I'm sure it was maybe less than a month ago when I mentioned about implementing a stop loss.

The problem you have is that rakeback makes up a substantial part of your earnings and it forces you to keep playing despite your decisions becoming suboptimal.

Losing 20+ buy-ins in <4k hands really isn't a 'normal' swing and it's quite well known that decision making in humans can deteriorate quite rapidly after suffering a few losses.

I think you should consider implementing a daily stop loss. Or alternatively, if you lose X buy-ins, you take an enforced break and return after 30 mins / 1 hr / 2hr / whatever is appropriate for a mental reset.

The other problem is you are squeezing your play into 3 days. Now with your back against the wall, you will push things more to try make the money back on Saturday and Sunday. If you're still losing on Sunday, I suspect you will feel inclined to play Monday, Tuesday etc. In summary: I consider your 3 day rule very -EV for a number of reasons.


Ooof, sorry blazar. GL in your next session, you can get it back this weekend even at 25nl!


I lost the challenge but managed to minimize the loss as much as i could, ending todays session here.



Just one hand to show you how crazy todays session was and this isn't even a fish, this was a reg, some kind of leveling war was going on

GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 199.16 BB
MP+1: 275.08 BB
MP+2: 204.66 BB
CO: 108.02 BB
BTN: 429.78 BB
Hero (SB): 203.46 BB
BB: 200 BB
UTG: 346.22 BB
UTG+1: 33.92 BB

9 players post ante of 0.5 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 6 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 1 BB, fold, BTN raises to 8 BB, Hero raises to 27.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 19.5 BB

Flop: (61.5 BB, 2 players) 6 3 J
Hero bets 16.5 BB, BTN calls 16.5 BB

Turn: (94.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 57.5 BB, BTN calls 57.5 BB

River: (209.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 101.46 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 101.46 BB

Hero shows 7 7 (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 67%, Flop 76%, Turn 89%)
BTN shows 6 K (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 33%, Flop 24%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 403.62 BB


After withdrawing 150$ for life expenses BR looks like this, not too bad imo next Friday we can play nl50 again



I don’t feel like established at nl50 yet tbh adaptation period still goes on.

This week i will do different type of preparation and will see if it works.

I have now more accurate understanding how regs at this limit think and what they do.


Made slightly easier challenge this week, we already have 5/5 bettors against us.



Could you share your basic stats? (just vpip/pfr/3bet or anything else you are comfortable with sharing) I sometimes play some of the deep ante games on gg and really curious what you feel like are the optimal kind of stats for these games as I see regs playing anything from a v tight 16/12 kind of style all the way up to maybe 32/26 or even looser.


by tres-deuce

Could you share your basic stats (just vpip/pfr/3bet or anything else you are comfortable with sharing) I sometimes play some of the deep ante games on gg and really curious what you feel like are the optimal kind of stats for these games as I see regs playing anything from a v tight 16/12 kind of style all the way up to maybe 32/26 or even looser.

Before i thought optimal stats would be something like 22/18 and 7% 3bet but then i changed my mind and said that everything was a lie and i needed to play as high vpip as i could because of antes, my theory is that high VPIP players get the benefit to take all the dead money which tight players are losing by folding a lot pre so i started to experiment even 40-50VPIP at lower stakes like nl5 nl10 which worked fine but at nl50 my vpip/pfr was 27/22.

This week a lot of things gonna change, seen enough of nl50 regs and got a good clue how they think and what they do so definitely this week a lot of things will change and right now i'm doing whole different preparation, also VPIP/PFR will change, either it will bring us big success or big fail, we will see.


That's interesting, I can definitely see the argument for higher vpip and I can imagine the potential for non showdown winnings is insane (although my redline is terrible in these games personally). Thanks, and good luck for the weekend!


Ending todays session here, i think we're in good shape but could have been better.


This hand got me tilted big time 😃

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GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 210.22 BB
SB: 240.64 BB
BB: 245.7 BB
UTG: 352.64 BB
UTG+1: 176.22 BB
MP: 157.48 BB
Hero (MP+1): 199.16 BB
MP+2: 249.14 BB
CO: 200 BB

9 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.3 BB) Hero has Q K

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, MP raises to 6.66 BB, Hero raises to 25.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 18.84 BB

Flop: (56.8 BB, 2 players) K 8 5
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (56.8 BB, 2 players) Q
MP checks, Hero bets 28 BB, MP calls 28 BB

River: (112.8 BB, 2 players) 6
MP bets 103.78 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 103.78 BB

MP shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 51%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows Q K (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
MP wins 313.56 BB


That turn call 😆

Must have known it was coming on river!


Ending todays session here, again it could have been better but can't complain, one more day left, tomorrow will be decisive.


Painful hand of the day:

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GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 243.64 BB
SB: 200 BB
BB: 200 BB
UTG: 272.5 BB
UTG+1: 190.82 BB
MP: 56.72 BB
MP+1: 160.9 BB
CO: 45.1 BB

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 7.5 BB, SB raises to 28.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 21 BB

Flop: (60.6 BB, 2 players) 3 3 J
SB bets 15.16 BB, Hero calls 15.16 BB

Turn: (90.92 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 40.5 BB, Hero calls 40.5 BB

River: (171.92 BB, 2 players) 4
SB bets 115.64 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 115.64 BB

SB shows 3 A (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 57%, Flop 95%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows Q K (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
(Pre 43%, Flop 5%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 394.4 BB


Started today and already these... i guess nothing comes easy!

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GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 254.74 BB
SB: 218.64 BB
BB: 148.26 BB
Hero (UTG): 311.9 BB
UTG+1: 38.8 BB
MP: 214.74 BB
MP+1: 101.82 BB
CO: 189.1 BB

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 3 BB, UTG+1 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 11.88 BB, Hero raises to 311.7 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 136.18 BB and is all-in

Flop: (301.22 BB, 2 players) 4 8 2

Turn: (301.22 BB, 2 players) T

River: (301.22 BB, 2 players) Q

Hero shows A K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 70%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
BB shows A Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 30%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
BB wins 292.42 BB

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GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 189.36 BB
UTG+1: 137.5 BB
MP: 212.52 BB
MP+1: 145.76 BB
CO: 153.6 BB
Hero (BTN): 197.4 BB
SB: 259.98 BB
BB: 204.76 BB

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has 4 5

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4.84 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 13.5 BB, MP calls 9.66 BB

Flop: (46.6 BB, 3 players) 7 3 6
UTG+1 checks, MP checks, Hero bets 39.5 BB, UTG+1 calls 39.5 BB, fold

Turn: (125.6 BB, 2 players) 6
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 143.2 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 83.3 BB and is all-in

River: (292.2 BB, 2 players) J

Hero shows 4 5 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 21%, Flop 63%, Turn 0%)
UTG+1 shows 7 7 (Full House, Sevens full of Sixes)
(Pre 79%, Flop 37%, Turn 100%)
UTG+1 wins 283.4 BB


We did it!



Congrats man, absolutely crushing!

How do you feel about the ante reduction? You noticed you're getting any less chips in the gg care/cheers flip outs since the reduction?


How to make nl50 regs ragequit, hand of the day, i call it the perfection.

GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.1 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 200 BB
SB: 402.1 BB
BB: 61.44 BB
UTG: 171.46 BB
Hero (MP): 194.5 BB
CO: 285.66 BB

6 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 17 BB, fold, Hero raises to 36.5 BB, SB calls 19.5 BB

Flop: (75.2 BB, 2 players) J 6 2
SB checks, Hero bets 7.5 BB, SB calls 7.5 BB

Turn: (90.2 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (90.2 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 44.5 BB, SB raises to 357.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 105.8 BB and is all-in

SB shows K K (Flush, King High)
(Pre 70%, Flop 56%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 30%, Flop 44%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 382 BB


by tres-deuce

Congrats man, absolutely crushing!

How do you feel about the ante reduction You noticed you're getting any less chips in the gg care/cheers flip outs since the reduction

I get a bit less but still i get them a lot, i know a player whose gg care/cheers reduced by a lot and he got no chips at all or some scary thing like that, for me personally it feels normal like not much changed but maybe i'm wrong will see in the future.


Solid week


BR is at peak now, probably i'll withdraw 700$ to save some and use some for life expenses, so 3,5k$ BR will be healthy anyway, be smart be safe and eventually we'll get there.



Gonna repeat exact same challenge which i did previous week and it's already full, we've 5/5 bettors.


After withdrawing 700$, BR looks like this now, will be interesting to see it again on Monday after this challenge is done.



Not doing well



Still trying to come back



Someone won BBJ and i got a share from it (235$)



After long 13h session comeback is done (from -800$ to +300$)



Mission impossible completed.


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