THISPLAYISBAD- PLO cash game journey
Hello all,
My Sn on GG is THISPLAYISBAD and I am starting this thread to document my journey of moving through the ranks of PLO. I transitioned from NL to PLO almost 2 years ago and started from micro stakes and am now currently playing 200 and 500. Before transitioning, I had never had any coaching or studied poker at all apart from watching youtube videos; I was very much a tough fish, finding moderate success in low and midstakes NL games. When transitioning to PLO, I decided to take it seriously and find out how good I can really get at poker so I enrolled in a CFP and had some private coaching on the side as well. About 8 months ago I had a 500K hand sample of good results at 200 and decided to then quit my job and pursue poker full time. I have found the decision to be a good one but also quite isolating as I have zero friends who take poker seriously and am very much alone in my endeavors as a new "professional" player so i am hoping that making this thread will open some doors in terms of networking and making new poker colleagues/friends. I also believe the thread will simply be tons of fun as I plan on sharing results and the ups and downs for you all to enjoy. Some short term goals:
- Finding more life balance and being more disciplined with my schedule. (I tend to be extremely obsessive about the game and struggle to take breaks and enjoy life as much as I should)
- Being kinder to myself (I am a perfectionist by nature and am very hard on myself when making mistakes at the tables. If I look up a hand in solver and solver tells me my play is even slightly negative EV I obsess about the spot and focus on never making that mistake again and have a very negative inner monologue with myself. I realize this way of thinking is unhealthy and I am actively working on correcting the thought process)
- Lowering the amount of tables I play and focus on playing as well as possible every session. (I have an issue with wanting to plow through hands and variance and will overload myself with to many tables, especially if they are good ones. I can play well with a lot of tables but it inevitably always causes a misclick or suboptimal play and a 50 BB blunder occurs. My goal is to limit my tables to a maximum of 6 and simply play longer hours to get volume in (30-40) hours a week.
- Finish reading "The Mental Game of Poker" by Jared Tendler. I am about half way through it and so far I have really enjoyed it and feels like it has helped me with my mental games.
My goal with poker is to simply be the best I can be, I am highly competitive in nature and foresee myself not stopping until I reach the top OR the top of my ability. I am 36 years old and recently married so i do have pressure on me to make this work which is scary but I also think it is a massive advantage in many ways.
There are no rules for this thread and please feel free to ask me anything and I will answer all questions I am comfortable answering. I will try to make updates with graphs once a week at minimum.
Hit a 20 buy in downswing, sucks but def will not complain about it. Still mixing at 200 and 500 so money wise it is only about 5K, and after the 45Kish upswing I have no right to complain. Will stay at 200 and 500 until I am feeling more confident to shot take 1K. I am confident in my abilities to win at 1K but want to allow my bankroll for more cushion to withstand the swings. I have always been a bankroll nit and in theory it is holding me back from moving up stakes quicker, but I think that is only in theory. If I log in and am emotionally invested in the outcome of a single pot during a shot take it is clear to me I have no business shot taking the stake yet, and I know that is what I would feel at 1K right now so i will hang tight and keep grinding up the roll a bit more and start to shot take when I win 10K or so. The biggest victory of this current downswing is I had very little victim mentality monologue in my head and I was overall ok with the out come. I feel I played very well and I will continue focus on what I can control and simply forget the rest. I have also decided to start making youtube videos of live play, just for fun. I will use Ignition so I can stay anonymous on my other sites for as long as possible. I will link here once I start making them. Updated graph below.
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Hit a 20 buy in downswing, sucks but def will not complain about it. Still mixing at 200 and 500 so money wise it is only about 5K, and after the 45Kish upswing I have no right to complain. Will stay at 200 and 500 until I am feeling more confident to shot take 1K. I am confident in my abilities to win at 1K but want to allow my bankroll for more cushion to withstand the swings. I have always been a bankroll nit and in theory it is holding me back from moving up stakes quicker, but I think that
Would definitely watch - GLGL
are you the wizofodds from old 2p2 blog days?
Ev caught up with us a little bit which is nice of course and my good run is still here for the time being. I am running well at lower stakes and not so great at higher stakes in terms of All in ev but I can not control that. The important thing is if I am playing well or not and I feel that I am. I really need to get more disciplined with not playing to many tables, and to also not play HU games as much. The distraction of a HU table when I have 4 or 5 6 max tables on the side is not good for my game obviously. I have recently started to battle a bit more HU against regs just to figure out the format and I do feel like I am getting a good feel for frequencies and ranges but at this point in my career not sure if HU is mandatory to learn as I can very often find enough action at 200 and 500 games at 6 max. I need to win about 5K or more and I will be comfortable taking a 5 buy in shot at PLO 1K so I am looking forward to rewarding myself with that shot. I have 4K or so in rewards on a certain site that should be unlocked within a week so if I do not lose at the tables and I am able to unlock those rewards I will take my shot and report back here with results. Updated graph is below:
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Another 30K hands have passed and nothing to eventful in terms of the graph here, kind of just breaking even, but with RB and winnings on non tracked sites the biggest upswing of my career continues and for that I am very grateful. Over the past 6 weeks or so I have made a little over 65K playing no stakes higher than 500 so i am very fortunate for that. I have suffered from an extreme amount of winners tilt the last few weeks, my ego has gotten the better of me and I found myself reg battling a ton, playing a ton of HU and not table selecting much at all. I have been holding tables on all sites that I play and I think this is a mistake at 500 and below given the reasonably high rake structure when playing HU. If I am honest with myself it was primarily motivated by pure ego. It gave me a confidence boost knowing that I could hold these tables largely unchallenged and when i did get challenged the HU matches were going very well for me. I think this was a subconscious validation of my efforts and the fact I can beat 500 but logically I think doing this is pretty silly. I am much better served table selecting and having a higher win rate with less variance so I can get to higher stakes faster. I will still be forced to play regs and I am always working on my game so I will get better during this time, I do not need to reg battle a ton in order to achieve my goals. I do have to draw a line in the sand somewhere though and I will not be bum hunting and will play tables with weaker regs present as I can generate a win rate in those games. Money is great but integrity means much more to me and I think bum hunters and short stackers are a cancer to the great game of poker. I have plenty of money now to shot take 1K but I will hold off on it for a while. I am still making to many mistakes and I need to work on some more soft skills I am not happy with at the moment (still playing to many tables and not table selecting, as well as putting my ego aside).
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Hi, where do you play?
congrats!
and yes good job btw!
Had some success in tournaments and cash games, the upswing continues and I am very grateful for it. Running above EV for recent sample and finally dipped my toes into the 1K streets which went well. Still not happy with my lack of discipline when it comes to playing to many tables but it is getting better slowly. I have an offer for staking and coaching so I may take it but not sure yet. 95% of people with my current bankroll would be playing 1K and possibly even 2K but I am aware I am a bankroll nit which is most likely hurting my progress slightly when it comes to moving up the stakes. Having a staking deal would help me with this but I do feel it would be a band aid on the real problem which is my risk adverse nature. My wife and I are planning to start a family this year so going on huge downswing is very scary for me as I will have another mouth to feed soon. I must accept however, that moving up stakes is the only way to achieve my one true goal in poker, to become the very best I can be. I will force the issue a bit and make sure I hop into some good 1K games going forward, take a 5 buy in shot or what not and drop back down if it does not work out. At this point in my upswing I am up about 80ishK so losing a bit back is fine. It is more of my mind wrapping around the bigger numbers on the screen I am playing for that I must get used to; it has been the same thing at every stake for me. The thing I do like about my game is even though I am uncomfortable with the stakes I do not shy away from aggression and still play the best I can. Updated graph is below and I wish everyone the best this upcoming year!
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Pretty cool spot here, annoying because the hand history did not capture my hand for some reason but here I hold QQ67 with flush blocker. When trying to find bluffs I suppose perhaps it is close between wanting to block the 8 as well (Q8XX) but I think in this exact node people are extremely polar, even with the small river sizing, meaning in reality I do not beat value here. People are scared to go for thinnish value here with flushes as well as AK combos and I think facing the river jam IP has a real gross spot even with a hand as strong as A8. Kind of a cool, spicy and fun bluff here imo.
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Pretty cool spot here, annoying because the hand history did not capture my hand for some reason but here I hold QQ67 with flush blocker. When trying to find bluffs I suppose perhaps it is close between wanting to block the 8 as well (Q8XX) but I think in this exact node people are extremely polar, even with the small river sizing, meaning in reality I do not beat value here. People are scared to go for thinnish value here with flushes as well as AK combos and I
Is it just me or I can't see any of the hole cards?
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GL at 1k, hope it goes well!
Ya it is a coin poker hand, from my experience sometimes the hole cards do not show, I have no idea why. The site tends to be pretty buggy from time to time so not a huge surprise I suppose. Thanks bro! GL to you as well, hope the epic comeback continues for you π
i think you dont get holecards from coin unless its gone to showdown?
Just had one of the worst sessions of my career tonight. I dropped about 20-25 buy ins in only 5 total hours of play. All standard coolers and hands I could not do much about, this session was a product of getting very bad card distribution and running way below EV on top of that as well. I must say I feel that a bad run had been long over due for me so I will take it in stride the best I can. Getting smashed hand after hand after god moding for some time took me by complete surprise and towards the end of the session I could feel myself becoming tilted with anger and frustration. I am incredibly proud of myself because I did not deviate a single hand from what i thought was optimal play, regardless of people showing me the nuts every time. I was tilted but under seemingly complete control of my actions and mostly my thought process. The player I was even 6 months ago would have for sure spewed some stacks in some manner but tonight I had my biggest victory I could ask for which was to simply play my best under extreme stress. I lost a 6K pot at 1K (I will post below) which really hurt the soul considering I was shot taking. I will put off the 1K shot until i grind some funds back at 500, the Ev is there but results are not for now. I am very happy with my play and even more happy that I feel I am getting a little better everyday after my study session is complete. Marking 40-60ish hands per day to study them is quite a lot of work and I hate it and find it incredibly boring but it is necessary to become the best and I will not stop until i succeed. Posting total graph and graph for the year below:
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Was able to bounce back from the small downswing and get back to taking 1K shots. I have played enough hands at 1K now where i feel completely comfortable and I am getting a feel for what the regs are doing there. Every time I am all in for a huge pot at this stake it does get my blood pumping and a little adrenaline rush which is something I need to be mindful of but it does not seem to be affecting my play much at all as i force myself to maintain control as much as possible. It does appear to me that regs at this stake largely play very similar and a lot of them seem to be on the exploit train which I feel makes things very easy for me at the tables, they air mail there hands/range in almost every spot and it feels as though I can play near perfectly against there overall range in a bunch of spots. TBH I thought 1K would be very hard and full of tough players but it really seems not much difference from 500, or even 200 at times. Or course all this is easy to say when running good, let's see if I feel the same during my next big downswing. Still running like crap at 1K in terms of EV but hopefully catches up soon and I can make 1K my main stake. Updated graph is below for total and YTD as well as current 1K results.
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I am looking to play the $2,650 Venom on ACR PLO event with $2,000,000 guaranteed. I wish to sell 65% for 2 bullets with no markup. Please message me here if interested, I have a long history of doing semi large deals and my debts are always paid, I am very trustworthy and I can provide receipts with some well-known regs. For some reason it seems ACR does not allow staking through the client for this event. Total needed to run 2 bullets is $1.722.50 and I will sell in $100 increments.
I am looking to play the $2,650 Venom on ACR PLO event with $2,000,000 guaranteed. I wish to sell 65% for 2 bullets with no markup. Please message me here if interested, I have a long history of doing semi large deals and my debts are always paid, I am very trustworthy and I can provide receipts with some well-known regs. For some reason it seems ACR does not allow staking through the client for this event. Total needed to run 2 bullets is $1.722.50 and I will sell in $100 increments.
EDIT: $3,445 needed in total
Action sold.