Getting wrecked at NL10 in 2026
I'm an old age fish. Didn't play much in 15 years. Just wanted to see really how the poker world is spinning in 2026. So I thought I also gots to play some Cashgame. How else would I feel what's going on, right. Now, turns out I am just getting wrecked. Did some studying though and figured I should not be that bad. Had the feeling I'd probably be 2-5BB/100 positive on NL10 SH. Now, as it often turns out, feeling is something that can be misleading in poker. Losing quite badly over a now more or less relevant sample.
The graph below is NL10 on Stars. It is pretty much 1/3 on NL10 SH on standard tables and 2/3 NL10 SH Zoom. Just for reference, I put in the total Rake attributed as a negative value in grey. The pink line is My C won + 50% RB, also as a reference.

It isn't horrendous I guess, -3.88BB/100 All-in EV adj. Still it sucks. I thought I can easily make 5BB/100 more here. Apparently, it ain't that easy though. Pool is a LOT of South American and Eastern European regs. Many nits, but also some seriously good players. Some I suspect to be bots even. But there are seriously good normal regs for sure as well. Some Greek guys are almost certainly bots, not sure why Stars doesn't detect them. They all play the same shitty 30/15 style. Horrible bots, but most likely bots.
Now to the question why I get destroyed. Let's limit the graph to this month, as I probably play a tiny bit better now and don't want to mix in my stats from the beginning:

Red line is horrendous, but I just can't see a way to fix it. I am trying to call everything on River that isn't obvious nuts, but somehow still most of it is nuts. No idea how the red line could possibly be better. I am not folding really, not anything but total air at least. I will post my PT4 stats for this months' graph below. Anyone able to tell me about some obvious mistakes in there? It's mostly Zoom. Sample for standard SH not big enough, so nevermind that.


I don't feel like there is a lot of tilt or punt in there. However, some slightly looser plays in the heat of the moment are definitely possible. Anyway, I can't blame it on that really.
Anyone here got a good tip for me so far? I thought about hitting the whole database in GTO Wiz, but that sub cost like 170$ a month and I don't even really know what to look for myself. Also I really don't feel like spending money on professional help here. It is A not worth it and B also defeats the purpose of the journey a bit. I am totally in for some loose discussion though. So anyone being able to tell me why I suck so hard, please let me know.
I also played some NL5 zoom and standard. Smaller sample, but the result is almost the same. Approximately minus 3.6/BB All-in EV adjusted. There I even feel is a lot more fish in Zoom usually and the Regs are definitely worse. Rake is a monster of course though. Around 9BB/100 on NL5 and 8BB/100 on NL10 combined. Given my playstyle that is.
Happy about any reply. Please roast me 😀
Cheers,
Retro
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30/15 nl10 greek bots. Good one bro.
They just all got such a similar style. Many of them, same stats. It's hard to find even two fish with such similar stats. Anyway, of course could be whatever behind it. Maybe they learned it from someone locally and play a similar style. They are definitely very bad, all of them.
Okay, let's post some hands. Would be happy to get feedback. What would you have done?
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $24.84 (248 bb)
MP: $11.34 (113 bb)
CO: $10.65 (107 bb)
BU: $26.04 (260 bb)
SB: $3.71 (37 bb)
BB (Hero): $18.59 (186 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q♣ A♠
2 players fold, CO raises to $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $1.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $1
Flop: ($2.80) 4♣ 8♠ A♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50
Turn: ($5.80) 5♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.80, Hero calls $2.80
River: ($11.40) 3♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.45, BB (Hero) folds
Plan was to have him check turn behind and I go for good value on River. Then he starts betting..
First I thought it was easy fold. Villain was 46/31/14/2AF on just 14 hands. Fish country. Nothing conclusive, possibly a decent player. Not clear.
But then, I mean, it is just half pot. I still think it is a fold, but probably closer than I thought. Struggle to see him playing anything else but 2pair or set that way. 67 also possible. As Js/Ts I guess he would rather jam river, but also possible. So much to the hand that got us beat. It's just 25%, but I just don't see him going turn and river for Value with AT/AJ as top pair. Close again as he is unkown and could be potentially a bit spewy or fishy. Used to call such spots a lot more, however this is almost exclusively sets when I see that kind of aggression.
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $6.27 (63 bb)
MP (Hero): $14.68 (147 bb)
CO: $11.79 (118 bb)
BU: $9.33 (93 bb)
SB: $15.25 (153 bb)
BB: $10.00 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with J♠ K♠
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.25, 4 players fold, UTG calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.65) 7♥ 5♣ K♥ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.47, UTG calls $0.47
Turn: ($1.59) J♣ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.92, UTG calls $1.92
River: ($5.43) 6♦ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12.04 (all-in), UTG calls $3.63 (all-in)
Total pot: $12.69 (Rake: $0.57)
Showdown:
MP (Hero) shows J♠ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%)
UTG shows 8♠ 9♠ (a straight, Five to Nine)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%)
UTG wins $12.12
Villain is fish. No way to play this but that way. He shows 8s9s of course. Mamma mia 😃
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $24.90 (249 bb)
MP: $8.63 (86 bb)
CO: $11.12 (111 bb)
BU: $11.00 (110 bb)
SB (Hero): $8.09 (81 bb)
BB: $10.23 (102 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with A♦ Q♥
1 fold, MP raises to $0.24, 2 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $1.12, 1 fold, MP 4-bets to $2.70, Hero 5-bets to $8.09 (all-in), MP calls $5.39
Flop: ($16.28) 2♦ Q♠ 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($16.28) 3♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($16.28) J♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $16.28 (Rake: $0.73)
Showdown:
SB (Hero) shows A♦ Q♥ (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 98%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)
MP shows A♥ 4♥ (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 2%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)
SB (Hero) wins $15.55
Must be like the 3rd or so time I'd actually shove AQo on 4bet from MP vs SB 3bet. In like ever. Just not usually the case. Here I thought it was close. Leaning towards fold still somehow. Villain got 33/25/17 on 73 hands. Not conclusive at all, but it seemed he had 4bet bluffs in his range potentially. I think I got a bit lucky there. He won't show Ax with small kicker here often. I only got 80BB left, which tipped it towards 5bet in the end. Ye, not sure. It's probably not very relevant, both jam and fold will probably have similar EV.
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $10.00 (100 bb)
MP: $11.58 (116 bb)
CO: $8.62 (86 bb)
BU: $15.37 (154 bb)
SB: $10.00 (100 bb)
BB (Hero): $10.10 (101 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with T♥ 8♥
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.55) 5♥ 7♣ 3♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16
Turn: ($0.87) 3♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.46, Hero calls $0.46
River: ($1.79) 4♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.94, Hero raises to $3.83, BTN calls $2.89
Total pot: $9.45 (Rake: $0.43)
Showdown:
BB (Hero) shows T♥ 8♥ (a flush, Ten high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)
BU shows 6♥ Q♥ (a flush, Queen high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)
BU wins $9.02
Still happy with the hand. Pre, flop, turn all standard I guess. Don't think I could do anything else there really ever. It crossed my mind to hero check/call this on River, but I am usually **** scared to lose value. Really don't think it's too thin. Maybe I could lead River, but wouldn't know what sizing. Block looks awkward. Maybe Pot could be interesting though.
Some more hands, hopefully getting some replies sooner or later.
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $10.82 (108 bb)
MP: $12.29 (123 bb)
CO: $25.76 (258 bb)
BU: $17.52 (175 bb)
SB (Hero): $9.90 (99 bb)
BB: $10.00 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with J♣ J♦
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.90
Flop: ($2.50) 3♣ 9♥ 8♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.34, BTN calls $1.34
Turn: ($5.18) 6♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.77, BTN calls $2.77
River: ($10.72) A♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $10.24, Hero calls $4.59 (all-in)
Total pot: $19.90 (Rake: $0.90)
Showdown:
BU shows 9♠ A♠ (two pair, Aces and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 11%, River: 100%)
SB (Hero) shows J♣ J♦ (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 89%, River: 0%)
BU wins $19
Never so sure about turn sizing here. Could probably jam or go slightly bigger. As played I guess I need to c/call River, but also not so sure.
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $17.64 (176 bb)
MP: $10.15 (102 bb)
CO: $28.79 (288 bb)
BU: $18.42 (184 bb)
SB: $10.85 (109 bb)
BB (Hero): $19.97 (200 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A♦ A♥
UTG raises to $0.20, 4 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $0.85, UTG calls $0.65
Flop: ($1.75) 3♥ K♣ 9♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.94, UTG calls $0.94
Turn: ($3.63) 4♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80
River: ($5.23) 5♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3
Total pot: $11.23 (Rake: $0.51)
Showdown:
UTG shows J♠ Q♦ (high card, King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 15%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)
BB (Hero) shows A♦ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 85%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)
BB (Hero) wins $10.72
Villain 50/22/0 on 19 hands. Looks spewy, not conclusive. I would by default 2nd barrel that turn like half pot, but somehow I thought I'd let him bet here. Same on River, after 5s is 90% blank here. I expect some flushdraws or backdoor flushdraws: Not a lot of Kings. That makes it a bit difficult. I man for his sizing it is rather easy, but let's say he jams river, I probably have to fold. Turned out to be pure bluff this time, but I doubt he does this with medium hands too - and then it becomes weird.
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $11.09 (111 bb)
MP: $10.05 (101 bb)
CO: $10.68 (107 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): $11.77 (118 bb)
BB: $2.92 (29 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with T♠ A♠
UTG raises to $0.25, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.75) 8♠ A♥ 7♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36, BB calls $0.36
Turn: ($1.83) 6♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks
River: ($1.83) 3♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.31 (all-in), UTG folds, Hero calls $2.31
Total pot: $6.45 (Rake: $0.29)
Showdown:
BB shows A♣ 3♠ (two pair, Aces and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 7%, River: 100%)
SB (Hero) shows T♠ A♠ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%)
BB wins $6.16
Villain is unknown. Against reg I call that river 100% on B125. This guy though, I had a feeling he can have all kinds of ****. Range wise obviously he cannot have anything that beats me, sets not possible really, would bet before. Probably would actually, even this guy. Reg can have some AJs here, nothing much else. Sometimes 99 maybe. I expected he would have quite some AXs, small suited aces in the range to do that. 54 would bet turn I guess? Mostly. Anyway, fish overbet is underbluffed of course. Even as played. So he needs 56% bluffs, he can't really overbet anything else for value, at least I can't keep a straight face pretending he probably could. 56% bluffs of unknown in threeway 125B on river.. Nah. Should have folded. Bad hand from my side. Sometimes I am still getting dragged into the station mode vs weird lines. I shouldn't.
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PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $12.92 (129 bb)
MP: $5.50 (55 bb)
CO (Hero): $12.40 (124 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $10.96 (110 bb)
BB: $10.10 (101 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 9♦ 9♣
2 players fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, SB 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.95
Flop: ($2.50) T♥ 4♥ 4♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.67, SB calls $0.67
Turn: ($3.84) J♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River: ($3.84) 7♣ (2 players)
SB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75
Total pot: $9.34 (Rake: $0.42)
Showdown:
SB shows 8♦ 8♥ (two pair, Eights and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)
CO (Hero) shows 9♦ 9♣ (two pair, Nines and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)
CO (Hero) wins $8.92
I literally thought he won't turn 88 into a bluff here, he'd check that. AF 1.36 - otherwise 17/15/12 on 348 hands. 20 WTSD. TT, JJ, 77 also perfectly in his range. I am really not sure how unlikely the sets are then. At least I can also deduct TT probably, as I think c/c flop is not his go to in 3bet pots with nuts here. He would probably bet. B40 I guess the solvers want anyway. But his Cbet value is only 17! I saw that during the hand, giving me some shivers on River. Of course he can turn all kinds of other **** into bluffs here AhXh first of all, AQ/AK he'd probably peel flop too, at least with the heart. My B28 donk on flop is not really standard, maybe it threw him off a bit too. Now AJ / KJ /QJs makes most sense for value, J9s maybe as well. His 3bet is unusually high for his otherwise quite nitty stats. I would say he probably 3bet 25% of his J9s here, but it is probably in there. Small pockets he could turn into bluff too, 88 though I really didn't expect anymore. I thought he'd rather play them c/c river up to like B70 as played. I am really not sure about this hand at all. Had so many thoughts, he also tanked a lot on River. Then I tanked almost the full bank. Quite a lucky hero call here I guess, I might be totally wrong doing it. Can't say. Another thing is that this line simply looks like the typical Nit reg value line for him. He reps AJ so badly, that even though he got to have many other hands too, it just looks like AJ too much. Gun to my head, I think this is a fold. But not sure.
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $6.09 (61 bb)
MP: $27.40 (274 bb)
CO: $10.00 (100 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $23.78 (238 bb)
BB (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K♦ J♣
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.27, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.17
Flop: ($0.59) 6♠ 7♣ T♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18
Turn: ($0.95) K♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80
River: ($2.55) J♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.83, BTN calls $1.83
Total pot: $6.21 (Rake: $0.28)
Showdown:
BB (Hero) shows K♦ J♣ (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 24%, Flop: 15%, Turn: 7%, River: 100%)
BU mucks K♥ A♥ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 76%, Flop: 85%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%)
BB (Hero) wins $5.93
BB def hand. I think pre and flop is standard with that size. Can't really fold to B30 on flop I guess. B60/70 I'd probably fold though. Turn c/c I guess is normal too. Not a fan of donking into it. It's too obvious and/or polarizing. I need one street value bet, River is good I guess, worst case I B150 or sth like that on river. As played, on that River I can't leave betting up to him, he got mostly medium hands in his range. Like 70% of his hands is 2nd pair or top pair weak kicker. Some busted BD flushdraw too. Anyway, I need to bet. Sizing I wasn't sure, but I guess I got a valuebeater. He should not be very elastic with K9, QJ, K5, KX, AJ and so on. Pretty sure he'd fold a lot to overbet. B75 felt like the upper limit of his calling range to me. Now, he got AK, okay. Maybe got a bit sentimental there. If I knew he had this very hand, I'd overbet. But obv his range is so much wider, mostly he got some medium made hand. Nice river for sure, got lucky this time. Overall pretty happy with my play here.
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
UTG: $10.91 (109 bb)
MP: $14.71 (147 bb)
CO: $18.70 (187 bb)
BU: $20.36 (204 bb)
SB (Hero): $10.66 (107 bb)
BB: $27.35 (274 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with T♠ A♦
4 players fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.60) 9♦ Q♦ T♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.29, Hero raises to $1.44, BB raises to $3.17, Hero raises to $10.36 (all-in), BB calls $7.19
Turn: ($21.32) 8♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($21.32) J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $21.32 (Rake: $0.96)
Showdown:
SB (Hero) shows T♠ A♦ (a straight, Eight to Queen)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 63%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)
BB shows 8♦ K♦ (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)
BB wins $20.36
Now, obviously this is super standard and very likely the best play. But I don't want to be lazy, so I was thinking about c/c flop at first. Maybe on High level poker this needs to be done anyway for some sort of balance? My thought process was simply that I have so much equity against basically any combodraw + pair he can possibly have. And he will have mostly that kind of stuff here. Also I make his toppair without diamond feel super uncomfortable. Like I am so ****ing far ahead, I'd just like to smash it in c/r/rr al-in flop. Even worst case I got my 25-30% against set or made flush, as he had it. Never drawing dead here ever. Plus, since it is SB BB blind battle he can just be lose af on this flop to state an example. It is 107BB deep, so nothing much really. Anyone arguing here that flop should be c/c anyway?
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Thanks! I was wondering that too, bit new to actively reading this forum anyway. But there it is hand by hand, right? I can't just smash like 5 hands together in one thread?
Thanks! I was wondering that too, bit new to actively reading this forum anyway. But there it is hand by hand, right? I can't just smash like 5 hands together in one thread?
There's no rule against it. Post your hand or hands in a way that you would like to see if you were being asked for your opinion on the play, thereof.