MonkerSolver
This is the support thread for MonkerSolver, a hold'em and Omaha nash equilibrium solver.
So give us an actual scenario that you would like to solve. I bet a high powered PC can do it.
I think I did, didn't I?
I'd want to get the entire gametree solved for each format at each depth, from pre-flop to river.
Similar to what PLOTrainer offers you, but for my own use locally where I can study without all the lag every time I change a range, etc - and more importantly, it doesn't cost me thousands per year.
Anyone selling MTTa .tree files with correct preflop bet sizings for PLO?
I am looking for an NLH 6-max tree with sizings like in GTO Wizard. Can anyone sell it?
Does anybody sell monker sims for NL 6max?
The "train" tool in MonkerSolver is bit cumbersome. Anyone if there are 3rd party tools to utilize that would help drill the spots in .mkr files more easily?
For example if I have a preflop sim and I would like to train MP's 3-bet range vs UTG's open and drill which hands are 3-bets and which are not. Currently the trainer tool in Monker just gives a lot of spots where UTG has already folded when it gets to UTG+1.
Another thing which would be really useful is to have trainer only give spots with certain EVs. I don't really need to trainer to give me AAJTds in UTG+1 and ask whether it's a 3B vs UTG, and same goes for J333o which again is a nobrainer fold.
So something that would help skip the obvious spots and use training time more efficiently.
After a fresh install and not using my monker it won't start anymore, no version. I run the launcher in ubuntu linux and the log in window appears, i enter my account and pw but the log in button is dead...nothing happens. It used to work just fine, what am I doing wrong?
Edit: I downgraded to openjdk-17 and now it works.
In the solver columns i get white text on white background. even in system dark mode the columns stay white on white. I also get issues with running solves...there is no info on the left about iterations and progress and whatnot. Nothing.
I use Ubuntu latest LTS desktop version and Java 21 and the "stable" Monkersolver 2.1.9.
Also: is there a way to download and run the version 1? I still got some pre flop solves I'd like to use but the newer version seem to have issues with that.
I've been playing around with the free version of monkersolver, and there is one thing I don't understand. Why don't the postflop solutions take into account bets made on preflop? For a given hand, the solution says we lose -20bb by folding, and -25bb by calling, but in reality we lose even more by folding because we put in 12bb on preflop.
The "train" tool in MonkerSolver is bit cumbersome. Anyone if there are 3rd party tools to utilize that would help drill the spots in .mkr files more easily?For example if I have a preflop sim and I would like to train MP's 3-bet range vs UTG's open and drill which hands are 3-bets and which are not. Currently the trainer tool in Monker just gives a lot of spots where UTG has a
No idea except using Mastermind/Vision custom upload tools which is itself cumbersome. If you find something out there lmk please!
The "train" tool in MonkerSolver is bit cumbersome. Anyone if there are 3rd party tools to utilize that would help drill the spots in .mkr files more easily?For example if I have a preflop sim and I would like to train MP's 3-bet range vs UTG's open and drill which hands are 3-bets and which are not. Currently the trainer tool in Monker just gives a lot of spots where UTG has a
its much more meaningful in postflop. like BU v BB on dry boards, wet boards etc.
Has anyone done the work solving the postflop gametree with a server?Have an estimate how long it would take, what kind of server would be optimal?I'd preferably like to do it for 100bb - 150bb - 200bb - 250bb - 300bb stacksFirst Headsup, then 6max (all positions)Have costs/processing times come down in the last 7-8 years? I'd imagine so...This would be for PLO, so, quite the f
10i/node is plenty for preflop ranges. i have 128gb of ram with a 5900x and it takes about 24-48 hours to hit 10i/node with a 100gb tree
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what your asking for is not attainable. Your not factoring in the preflop sizings, is it live where people open 3-4x by standard? online where everyone has preflop sizings on a button? how many bets before a jam? 4b jam, 5b jam? what about postflop? how many sizings? for instance i have 3. 1/3 for 3b pots, 2/3 for single raised, turn probe in 3b pot is 1/2, turn probe in SRP is 1.5x. these are all factors you need to consider.
Invest in a pc. i made some youtube videos about how to set up trees, "PlusEV_Hunters". i have tutorials on there. it would work the same on a server but the problem with using a server is you will need that server everytime you want to explore a sim. Say you have a 100bb 6m plo sim thats 256gb, you need to load the entire sim to explore it. so you will have to pay for a server with 256gb of ram in order to open that sim.
Build your own PC, well worth it. for 2.5x what Monker cost you can build a pc that will cover 99% of what you will ever need. 128gb is plenty of ram.
I've been playing around with the free version of monkersolver, and there is one thing I don't understand. Why don't the postflop solutions take into account bets made on preflop? For a given hand, the solution says we lose -20bb by folding, and -25bb by calling, but in reality we lose even more by folding because we put in 12bb on preflop.
you cant calculate bb lost on previous street because its part of the pot now. You cannot base your turn decision on how much you put in on the flop, each street is independent.
The "train" tool in MonkerSolver is bit cumbersome. Anyone if there are 3rd party tools to utilize that would help drill the spots in .mkr files more easily?For example if I have a preflop sim and I would like to train MP's 3-bet range vs UTG's open and drill which hands are 3-bets and which are not. Currently the trainer tool in Monker just gives a lot of spots where UTG has a
No idea except using Mastermind/Vision custom upload tools which is itself cumbersome. If you find something out there lmk please!
I apologize if this is spam, not certain on the rules in this forum, but my app will do exactly this - https://www.deathdonkey.com - I focus on mix games but I have all common preflop depths for plo and plo/8 with antes. I am happy to add some no ante PLO sims if you tell me what common spots you need. You can choose the exact node to train and my algorithm will prioritize "close" decisions. You will get a few no brainers but they are rare.
Btw I am surprised Vision/Mastermind don't do this?
I'm having an issue with using the load button within the 'Solve' tab of monkersolver. Nothing happens when I click the load icon.
It's been a while since I've used monkersolver, but if I remember correctly it should open file explorer to select which file to load. Am I just missing something stupid or this some other bug?
I have an .mkr file within the SavedRuns folder.
I've installed most recent JRE and have made sure I don't have multiple versions installed.
I've also tried running it as admin.
I apologize if this is spam, not certain on the rules in this forum, but my app will do exactly this - https://www.deathdonkey.com - I focus on mix games but I have all common preflop depths for plo and plo/8 with antes. I am happy to add some no ante PLO sims if you tell me what common spots you need. You can choose the exact node to train and my algorithm will prioritize "clo
To be clear we're talking about being able to train custom monker outputs (not ones that are run and uploaded by you/a training site).
E.g. most training sites (including yours if I understand the intro correctly? Please let me know if I'm wrong!) have a bunch of prebuilt "100bb 6 max [give rake structure]" type sims. But if I run a custom spot in Monker with stack sizes 28, 60, 73.7 I want a nicer tool besides monker's built in "train" feature that will let me train that exact spot by just plugging in the file.
Is this something your site can do?
To be clear we're talking about being able to train custom monker outputs (not ones that are run and uploaded by you/a training site).E.g. most training sites (including yours if I understand the intro correctly? Please let me know if I'm wrong!) have a bunch of prebuilt "100bb 6 max [give rake structure]" type sims. But if I run a custom spot in Monker with stack sizes 28, 60,
Ah I understand. You are describing a way to "bring your own sim" but use the interface to train it, like a very good fancy replayer. This is sorely missing from the poker training space. In 20 years I can't remember there ever really being a good universal hand replayer that works across multiple games and input formats.
I think Vision actually offers this in a way? You can set up custom spots and store them, but I'm not certain if you can set up the whole game structure with your own pre-built sim of stack sizes, etc.
Ah I understand. You are describing a way to "bring your own sim" but use the interface to train it, like a very good fancy replayer. This is sorely missing from the poker training space. In 20 years I can't remember there ever really being a good universal hand replayer that works across multiple games and input formats. I think Vision actually offers this in a way? You can se
pokeit is the only one
To be clear we're talking about being able to train custom monker outputs (not ones that are run and uploaded by you/a training site).
This is something I was working on. I went through a couple iterations of open beta tests but did not get much interest.
It’s currently on hold from further development because I have not found many interested in testing and using something like this.






