What is Convergence? - PLO solver
What is Convergence? - PLO solver

What is Convergence? - PLO solver

So I had this spot


I don't think I would pot this spot. The KQ976 hand i'm talking about

This is a pretty common spot in live 5 card PLO games. Should I keep studying this spot?

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30 July 2025 at 07:12 AM
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I asked on the discord - and I found the answer to my question. This is what he said word for word - or i'll put it on quotes.

If you are looking into spots like this, there will be convergence issues. If you think how a solver is coming to the conclusion for certain hands - EP has the tightest opening range, and MP is only flatting with 5% of the range behind there which makes their range extremely tight as well.

Due to how the range interaction works, you can't really study a spot like this because the ranges are going to be completely different in this environment compared to a loose live game. It's still important to study using PLO Trainer to understand hand classes and categories.

If you take your KQ976 hand for example, there are likely no Aces left because the other players already have a singular ace or two aces in their hand. Our hand has wide coverage on most boards where we're going to flop something, and now there's a ton of dead money in the middle from all the players who just called the 3.5bb already. The other hands that are folding often feature wheel cards and are quite disconnected.

I guess I would have to build my own PLO solver to study spots like this. Not really sure how I could do that - because the flatting ranges of live players is going to be far too loose. I like playing 5 card PLO and I buy in with around $500 so I have 100bb in the games I play. It's just sometimes we get these ridiculous 4-5 way all in pots and I may be over folding.

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