184 flop subset source
i'm looking and looking, can't acually source a reputable list anywhere. are all the solver companies just translating these to binary and keeping them non public facing? have i just been unable to find it yet, but it does in fact exist in the wild somewhere i can find? anyone got a link or can point me in the right direction? any help much appreciated.
note: any source needs to be open sourced, it'll be used in some r&d and potential product production.
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GTOWizard subsets:
184 ['As5s3h', '8s7h7d', 'Ah9s5s', '7h4s2s', 'KsTh7d', 'Kh6s2s', '7s3h2s', 'Ks6h4d', 'KsJh4d', '8s5s3h', '6s6h3s', 'AsQhTd', '8s7s3h', 'Ks9h2s', 'AsQh9d', 'KsJs2h', 'KhTs8s', 'AsKh2d', 'Qs8h6d', 'Js7h5d', '5s4h3s', 'Qs4h3d', '5s4h2d', 'Qs6s4s', 'QhQd3s', '9s3h2d', 'As9h6s', '9s8h4d', 'AsJh6d', '8s6h3s', 'Qs8h2d', 'Qs3h2d', 'JhTs2s', '8s7h4d', 'Ah7s6s', 'AsKsKh', 'Js9h3d', 'Kh8s4s', 'Kh9s8s', 'Js8s8h', 'Ts6h6d', 'As8s6s', 'Ts9h6s', 'AsTh2s', 'AhKs3s', 'QsQh8s', 'Jh9s4s', 'QsTh2s', 'Qs7h4d', '9h7s5s', 'Th9s7s', 'Ks4s2h', 'Ks7s2s', 'Js4h4d', '9s4h3d', 'AhQs9s', 'AhAd4s', 'Ah7s5s', 'QhQdJs', 'As9s4h', 'As9h8d', 'Th4s3s', '6h5s4s', '8s6s5s', 'KsTh2d', 'JsJh4s', 'Ts9s8h', '9h3s2s', 'Qh7s6s', 'QsJs7h', '5s4s4h', 'KsQs3s', '8s7s6h', 'Ks9h4d', 'Qs9s3s', 'Qs8h4s', '7s6h5s', 'QsTs9h', 'AhJs2s', 'As9s3h', 'Ts2s2h', 'Ts8h8d', 'Js9h6d', 'AsQs7s', 'KsQh5d', '9h5s2s', 'Ks6h3d', 'ThTd7s', 'Th8s2s', 'Js8h3s', 'QsThTd', 'AsQs5h', 'JhTs6s', 'Js9s7h', 'AsKh7d', 'KsQh3d', 'Ts6h5d', '8s3h2d', 'As6h6d', '7s3s2h', '8s5h2s', 'Js7h2s', 'Ks7h5d', 'Qs4h2d', 'KsJh5d', '8s7h5d', '9s5h2s', 'Js5s5h', 'Ts7s5h', '6s5s5h', '9s6h4s', 'AsKsQh', 'Js8h4d', 'Ts7s7h', '6s5s2h', 'KsJhJd', 'AsTh7d', '6s4s3h', 'JsTh5s', 'Qs8s2h', 'AsAh4s', 'Ks7h3d', 'Js9h4s', 'AsKs6h', 'Th6s2s', 'Js8h5d', 'As8s6h', 'KhKd4s', 'KsTh4d', 'AhAd6s', 'Js9h2d', 'As4s2s', 'Qs5h2s', '8h6s3s', 'Ks8h7d', '8s6h5s', '5s3h3d', 'Ks8s5s', 'Ks7h6d', 'KsTs3h', 'JhJd5s', 'AsJhTs', 'Qs5h4d', 'KhTs9s', 'As8h8d', 'As5s4h', 'JsTs3h', 'AsKh4d', 'Ah9s2s', 'KsTs6s', 'KsKh4s', 'AsJh3d', 'AsJh8s', 'Js4s2h', 'AsQhQd', '6s4h2d', 'QhJs6s', '9s6h3s', 'KsJsTh', 'QsJh3s', 'ThTd6s', 'Th6s3s', 'As6s5h', '9h9d7s', 'QhJsTs', 'Qs4h4d', '9s8h3d', 'QsTsTh', '9s2h2d', '7s6h3d', 'Ts5h4d', 'Ts7s3h', 'AsAhTs', '7s4s3h', 'Ts5s3s', 'Qs8h5s', 'As8h5d', 'KhJs5s', 'Kh9s7s', 'KsQsTh', 'Qh8s7s', 'JsTh8s', 'Ks9s2h', 'AhJs3s'],
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You're looking for kuba preflop subsets, just google that and should be on piosolver site somewhere. The ones on gtowiz above are probably the same.
The full 184 isomorphic flop list does exist in the wild but it's scattered across forum posts and old solver documentation rather than one clean source. GTORB and older Pio threads on here have had people post it piecemeal over the years. If you're building something that needs it in a clean format, the most complete version I've seen was in a GitHub repo tied to an academic paper on flop texture clustering, think it was around 2019-2020. Worth digging through Google Scholar for "flop isomorphism poker" and checking the associated repos.
Keep in mind these subsets also had different weightings to them and were primarily used for preflop solving.
Keep in mind these subsets also had different weightings to them and were primarily used for preflop solving.
Good point. The weighting issue trips people up if they just grab the flat list and assume uniform treatment. Depending on what you're building, you might need to account for suit isomorphism collapsing certain boards that still have different strategic properties postflop.
