British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.
Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...
Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.
Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...
The Southport killer is entitled to a defence, but I wouldn't want to be the lawyer who managed to get him off.
Back to the conspiracy theory, I would be amazed if this was anything other than Kremlin-funded propaganda. Kier Starmer somehow being the QC responsible for getting a war criminal off the hook and subsequent asylum in the UK, and then his son turning to Islamic and mass murderer is just an extremely unlikely series of events.
oh wait the killer of course deserves a defense, we were talking about the FATHER of the killer, the whole family should never have been in the UK and that's the tragic, indefensible choice that the left made which directly caused horrific events down the line
that's the tragic, indefensible choice that the left made which directly caused horrific events down the line
“The Left” didn’t make those choices, individuals did. No doubt human rights lawyers lean left, but I don’t think political ideology come before doing your job to he best of your ability.
“The Left” didn’t make those choices, individuals did. No doubt human rights lawyers lean left, but I don’t think political ideology come before doing your job to he best of your ability.
I don't mean the lawyers, I mean the legislators that write rules in such a way, a Rwandan war criminal can get in (with a good lawyer).
Lawyers though if they want to become politicians have to own the consequences of their lawyering as personal political responsibilities.
otherwise they keep lawyering and that's their job.
being good at getting the leftist-most outcome possible in a case you work on is a thing, but politically when you caused the deaths of little British girls you have to pay a price anyway.
If anyone lawyers are to blame then it's the prosecutors. It was their job to prove their case.
and they're probably rightists.
LONDON — The British government shouldn’t snub Brexiteer Nigel Farage’s offer to act as a Donald Trump whisperer, according to the man hotly-tipped to be the new U.K. ambassador to Washington.
Peter Mandelson said the centre-left Labour government should utilize the Reform UK leader as a bridge to the president-elect, after ministers rebuffed the offer of help from a the right-wing populist.
“You can’t ignore him,” Peter Mandelson — a Labour peer who is a leading contender to become Britain’s man in D.C. said of Farage. “He’s an elected member of parliament. He’s a public figure.
“He’s a bridgehead, both to President Trump and to Elon Musk and others. You’ve got to be pragmatic, practical about this. You’ve got to work the national interest in and that national interest is served in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways.”
Mandelson is always on the wrong side of everything.
Another like him is Jeremy Clarkson who today had his arse handed to him on a plate in a hilarious street interview by Victoria Derbyshire, who reminded him that he had admitting buying his farm to avoid tax.
LOL
https://bsky.app/profile/lewisgoodall.co...
Ukraine has fired British-made Storm Shadow missiles into Russia for the first time. Twelve of the weapons were fired into Kursk by Ukrainian armed forces.
Taxi driver cleared of encouraging social media followers to murder Home Secretary
A man has been cleared of allegations that he encouraged his followers to murder Home Secretary Yvette Cooper MP in posts on social media.
Andrew McIntyre, of Cousins Lane in Rufford, appeared at Liverpool Crown Court on Thursday charged with two counts of encouraging or assisting an offence following violent scenes across Merseyside in the summer.
Disturbances flared in Southport, Liverpool city centre and Walton following the fatal stabbings of six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe and nine-year-old Alice Dasilva Aguiar during a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in the seaside town. Charge sheets had alleged that the 39-year-old published “electronic communications which were capable of encouraging or assisting the commission of one or more offences of murder” and “capable of encouraging or assisting the commission of one or more offences of violent disorder and criminal damage” between July 28 and August 8 this year.
McIntyre, who the ECHO understands works as a taxi driver, yesterday pleaded guilty to the latter count and a further offence of possession of a bladed article in a public place in relation to a “folding pocket knife” found upon his arrest on Smithdown Road. But Arthur Gibson, prosecuting, told the court of the charge of encouraging murder: “While there are comments on social media concerning actions to be taken against the Home Secretary, that in itself does not support the allegation in count one because the requirement is that there has to be a genuine belief that any such actions would be carried out.
“There is a clear distinction between what might be termed a rant, however unpleasant it is, and messages which clearly incite criminal activity to take place. There is undoubtedly clear, and the crown would say overwhelming, evidence in relation to the offences of violent disorder and criminal damage being carried out.
“However, that is not the case in relation to count one. In those circumstances, having carefully considered the matter, a decision has been taken to ask the court to lie that count on the file.”
Far right threats lead to cancellations of events. Disturbing times.
Not a single piece of evidence of said "threats" in the entire article. I have never heard of any right wing violence or intimidation at any type of "antiracism" book events, and I doubt you have either. Seems completely manufactured.
Numerous book events and even a screening at the BFI last month of a film about the rise of the far right have all been cancelled.
But I guess they all did it for the hell of it.
Numerous book events and even a screening at the BFI last month of a film about the rise of the far right have all been cancelled.
But I guess they all did it for the hell of it.
Not for the hell of it. They probably feel the press from manufacturing persecution is better for them than holding events and screenings no one wants to go to anyways, because sane people realize "antiracism" is a horrible concept.
"Manufacturing persecution" from the person who's already forgotten the violence of the far right riots in the summer.
gtfo with your ****.
"Manufacturing persecution" from the person who's already forgotten the violence of the far right riots in the summer.
gtfo with your ****.
LOL. That was in response to a domestic terrorist murdering children. No one gives a **** about "antiracism" book events in 2024. Probably what they are really worried about is no one would show up to the event except a dude with a cell phone video to record and put it on social media and ridicule them. Much better to make up an unfounded story of concern of right wing violence.
Well knock me down with a feather!
Any fellow Brits sick of Starmer's Labour, sign this petition, it's going up fast and getting through to mainstream...
Sorry, mate, I'm a democrat, parties get their time in office unless they are obviously corrupt or grossly negligent.
In which case, it's up against the wall, last smoke, then bang-bang-bang.
Also worth pointing out that "re-join the EU" got 6m. Obviously Labour are bad, but Badenoch or Farage are not the answer.
Meanwhile, for anyone wondering why left-wing parties are struggling to connect with voters in the west...
I bet some were making similar points when debates over whether to legalise homosexuality were taking place more than 50 years ago, Elrazor.
Also worth pointing out that "re-join the EU" got 6m. Obviously Labour are bad, but Badenoch or Farage are not the answer.
I don't think it's really about calling a GE, it's just letting Labour know they're performing poorly, what they're doing is unpopular and that they need to change their ways.
Will it work? probably not because they seem incapable of listening, but it hopefully it will galvanise opposition in the country to some of their policies and put doubt into the minds of their backbench MPs.
Performing poorly means something different to different people.
I might say they’re performing poorly because they’re far too right wing. Others might say they’re not right wing enough and should bring back national service and the birch.
Fortunately there’s a mechanism to resolve this called an election cycle.