The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

Lets say its Carney if he carries on with Justin's policies I just do not see it making a difference. Carney is a smart man and I think he can access the situation and know Pierre is inheriting a huge mess and will wait till Liberals get destroyed and than come in to take leadership

The key policies I look forward to as a new government are
No Carbon Tax
NO GST on new home builds
A climate strategy that will have the same overall effect as Justin's on Climate Change

Both those policies will be great for me

It’s interesting isn’t it that the two things you mention are the two things that are actually deficit neutral because they cancel equal programs. You want them to cut rebates and cut the housing accelerator fund (swapping targeted housing investment for general housing investment). You can debate each policy, but it would be quite stupid to believe either is going to make any kind of dramatic major difference the average person will notice.

I am a new home builder that build under a million $ The housing accelerator does absolutely nothing for me . Knocking 5% off the selling price of a home for $700,000 is a huge plus for me as either I have to eat it or the home owner has to pay it

Maybe, maybe not. The buyers are the ones who pay GST, so in order for you as the builder to make more money you have to presume the price of the house rises due to increased demand from buyers who now have more cash.

But either way, I don't really care. Not in a mean way, it is just that the question is whether targeted investment or broad investment is more helpful to the economy to spur creation. That's not entirely obvious. Whenever you do broad-spectrum investments, a large chunk of it is "pointless" in that a house that would have been built anyways is just being built at a cheaper cost, it doesn't actually spur a new investment. But you do get new investment right at the margin, where a house that wouldn't be economically viable without the gst cut is now built because of it. In contrast targeted investment which absolutely helps plenty of builders even if it isn't specifically you (and still might help you if it pulls other developers into those projects leaving less competition for you) tries to focus more on those margin places where something that wouldn't otherwise be built now does get built.

At the end of the day I suspect it is close to a wash. If you inject a few billion into housing construction to a first order approximation it probably has a similar benefit whether it is done one way or the other. So we should not expect a dramatically improved housing situation based on the two different ways of doing it.

Yet your boy Poilievre acts like it will be night and day. Do you think he lies to suggest that?

Well according to you if he believes it than its not a lie

Here is one of the few times Justin Trudeau spoke the truth

Just once it would be nice when I typed out a non-trivial post staking out a mildly nuanced claim if you actually have a genuine, intellectually honest response back. I don’t know what part of your psyche thinks those kind of empty, trolling, snark responses are somehow preferable to actually meaningful engagement, but it’s just kind of sad.

Be better.

One detail from that interview I didn’t know about. The idea of Butts coming back. He was a HUGE part (along with Katie Telford) in the early portion of Trudeau’s very successful portion of his prime ministership, and is super savvy politically.

Alright boys, this is the week some of y’all have been dreaming about for 9 years. It’s here. Please try to approach it with at least a modicum of grace.

[QUOTE=uke_master;58847759]Alright boys, this is the week some of y’all have been dreaming about for 9 years. It’s here. Please try to approach it with at least a modicum of grace.[/QUOTE]

No need to inflate the narrative .
Maybe 2-3 years :p

No dude, that would be according to the ****ing dictionary.

I've highlighted the relevant part of you.

This stuff isn't hard, and I've been down this road with you before. I know the word "lie" is misused a lot these days, so you're certainly not the only one who does this routine where you call 'anything that turns out not to be true' a lie. But when you do it, don't pretend like the issue is other peoples'. You're the one using your own definition of a lie, not uke.

Yeah, it seems like we're finally there.

I think it depends on who you're talking about. Likely 9 years for shifty, then less for lozen, then less for you, and then less for me. And shifty's probably not alone, so I think uke is right - some posters probably have been dreaming about it that long. 😀

Yes sure but i disregarded individual like shifty since they would never vote for a liberal anyway !
So in those cases its even further then 9 years, it was even before conception 😀

The real game I’m interested in tho is to see trump reaction about it .
If tariffs was about leverage , pretty dumb to put it in when there is no captain to deal with …

Wasn’t he the fall guy for the scandals? Not sure which one but at one time Trudeau threw him under the bus as well

Yup supposedly this is the week I assume he will prorogue government as well

I will never vote for a liberal again fool me once again………

At this point, thank goodness.

Are the seat ranges for the Liberals legit? Disaster case of TWO and average case of 6, losing official party status?

Because if so, WOW.

Can Polievre make jan 6 a national holiday in Canada now, something like "liberation day"?

it's so funny that he QUIT on January 6...
Bwahahahahaha... good on all my Loonie mates

I guess he will not be governor of the 51 st state

Will go down as the worst PM in CDN history . Sadly Pierre will inherit a mess larger than anyone could imagine .

Ya I don't think his term will age well in history for any circles . while someone with a similar term length like Stephen harper will pretty high on the rankings while Jean Chrétien will be the goat.

Why ?
Because prorogation ?

The right should love Trudeau now 😀
No 250$ check and no capital gain tax increase !

Trudeau did well lol

No capital gains tax increase is probably the most important thing to happen for Canada. That alone was devastating for investors and capital investment. Which for a certain segment of the Canadian voting population they were very happy seeing (capital destruction) for very strange internal reasons.

We dodged that bullet bigly.

If it wasn't for Freeland resigning and sending that letter out to tank Trudeau that tax may have gotten implemented. God bless Freeland and good riddance to her at the same time.

Only about 2-3 years for me.

It was clear that as he became more and more unpopular in the polls he started to become more and more desperate and his policies were reflecting that.

He felt a need to appeal more and more to the far left fringe, which is almost always never good for any country. To be fair, appealing to the fringes of the left and the right is never a good thing.

+1

Huh? The policy things from the last six months or whatever were hardly "far left fringe" at all. The "desperate" hail mary at the end was the GST rebate and 250 checks - those are standard political fair proposed and implemented by conservative Canadian politicians as well - they are gimmicky and ineffective but hardly trying to appeal to the far left they benefit everyone. In recent months he was dramatically CUTTING immigration (so dramatically that the projections actually suggested population decline in 2027 or something), hardly far left. Lots of border security movement after Trump, hardly far left. Lots and lots of housing dollars being spent - but Poilievre is promising a somewhat different but similar costing housing plan, hardly far left.

Your narrative makes little sense.

History tends to zoom out from leaders being politically unpopular in the last year of their term (as both chretien and harper and mulroney and peirre trudeau were). History tends to look more at global forces and see how high-inflation, high-housing in the post-covid era was a cruel mistress to incumbents around the world. I think when you step out and look at a decade in power of pretty stable political and economic stewardship, solid handling of a series of major global crises, and steady development of policies that support his vision of canada (several of which I rather suspect survive poilievre the way obamacare survived trump), I think it will be quite a bit higher than you suggest.