Covid-19 Discussion
Has the wisdom and courage to realize that the cure has now become worse than the disease. It's time to open up. Stop moving the ball.
Hospital systems have not been overwhelmed.
Ventilators are not in shortage.
Treatments are being developed.
There is no cure or vaccine. This is not going away for four years.
The devastation of the cure:
Suicide rates picking up.
Massive economic devastation which causes depression, anxiety, obesity, again increase in suicide rates and directly impacts poorer economic areas.
Alcohol sales up 51%.
Domestic Abuse on the uprise
Child abuse on the uprise.
Hospitals that do not have COVID related issues are forced to lay off doctors and nurses as there are not enough patients to economically support it, meaning they won't have the staff to deal with COVID outbreaks.
Michael Avenatti gets released from prison
We all did our part. We sheltered (here in Pennsylvania for 5 weeks already).
Open the office buildings. Open the hair saloons. Get rid of stupid mask laws.
Continue to monitor outbreaks and in areas hospital systems become threatened, reenact tougher guidelines.
LET'S GET BACK TO WORK!
And stop shaming people that want common sense solutions. Waiting for a vaccine is stupid and unpractical.
Don't forget the mask stuff.
Science is hard for some.
Yes, read the book by the absolute driveling moron anti-vaxer rfk jr. I'm sure it will be absolutely factually spot on.
You are correct. It is.
In the National Review, journalist Matthew Scully wrote "With courtroom standards of proof — everything cited and sourced to government databases and to peer-reviewed publications — Kennedy details egregious wrongdoing and raises entirely legitimate questions about the workings of the federal health bureaucracy during Covid and long before."[21]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_A...
No one huh?
The book has sold over one million copies[13] and remained a New York Times best seller for seventeen weeks.[7]
Lol, I guess you skimmed over the majority of the article that describes all of the disinformation and outright lies in the book.
Reading is fundamental.
What are some of the assertions ?
Lol, I guess you skimmed over the majority of the article that describes all of the disinformation and outright lies in the book.
Reading is fundamental.
Well, it is wikipedia so you have take whatever they say with a huge grain of salt. But I think you will find the quotes I provided are correct factually.
All I can say is read the book (Or not.) Then make up your own mind. I don't really care one way or the other to be honest.
You don't even have to buy it. I borrowed my copy from the local library.
They may have been noble lies, but all lies erode trust.
Lol, quote wiki then tell everyone not to believe wiki. Nice job.
They may have been noble lies, but all lies erode trust.
All you need to do is look at how many folks are getting the booster to tell you how much we trust the government on Covid
Jfc …
From your link right at the start ->
In the book, Kennedy offers disinformation about Fauci's role during the HIV epidemic and the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States and HIV/AIDS denialism. The book was described as "controversial" by The Guardian and Publishers Weekly and a "conspiracy theory extravaganza" by Science-Based Medicine.[1]
In the book, Kennedy accuses Fauci of pulling off "a historic coup d’état against Western democracy"[8] and promotes unproven COVID-19 treatments, including hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.[9] The author shares his opinion that COVID-19 vaccines are not sufficiently safety tested,[5] and likens vaccine mandates in the United States to living under the rule of Nazi Germany.[10]
The book accuses Fauci of deliberately neglecting to use hydroxychloroquine in order to increase the number of people who would die from COVID-19.[11]
Rfk even go back 30 years about fauci and how he manipulated crisis like the aids one too lol .
Getting to understand why rfk as that coucou nest around him ….
Even had some garbage stuff about vaccine not being tested …
Typical stupid stuff from antivaxxxer again .
Ho well great source my dear man BJ .
You are welcome to learn science from conspiracy theorist …
At least he did good by monetizing the slurppers …
Is the booster created by the government?
Flu shoot isn’t that uncommon , way before covid .
So what’s the problem ?
No the Booster is created by Pfizer I do believe and pushed by the government
I have no problem if you want to get 10 boosters I was just saying most people are electing to not get past the first two shots
Why do you think that is
I’m double dosed and one booster and done
The flu shot and Covid vaccine are different types of vaccines
No the Booster is created by Pfizer I do believe and pushed by the government
I have no problem if you want to get 10 boosters I was just saying most people are electing to not get past the first two shots
Why do you think that is
I’m double dosed and one booster and done
The flu shot and Covid vaccine are different types of vaccines
For the same reason people takes or not the annual flu shot shrug .
Obviously government rather see people takes it then not since many go to the hospital (wrongly) just for a regular cold , exacerbating hospitalization problems and cost.
If you are at high risk u should take both .
Personally I didn’t this year and I actually got sick for 3 days.
All good now .
Is it? I haven't noticed.
Don't forget there is more than one vaccine. Pfizer, Moderna, and Novavax in the US, for example,
I have no problem if you want to get 10 boosters I was just saying most people are electing to not get past the first two shots
Why do you think that is
Apathy, lethargy, ignorance, and misinformation.
I’m double dosed and one booster and done
The flu shot and Covid vaccine are different types of vaccines
Can you describe how, for example, Novavax and "the flu shot" are different types of vaccines and why that is relevant?
Is it? I haven't noticed.
Don't forget there is more than one vaccine. Pfizer, Moderna, and Novavax in the US, for example,
Apathy, lethargy, ignorance, and misinformation.
Can you describe how, for example, Novavax and "the flu shot" are different types of vaccines and why that is relevant?
Well if you wish to look up the largest lawsuits you will find many are against pharmaceutical companies .
Please explain how this is misinformation? Tell me your reason so few individuals are getting booster shots people are still dying from Covid
One is a MRNA vaccine and one is not
No the Booster is created by Pfizer I do believe and pushed by the government
I have no problem if you want to get 10 boosters I was just saying most people are electing to not get past the first two shots
Why do you think that is
I’m double dosed and one booster and done
The flu shot and Covid vaccine are different types of vaccines
The overall intake bivalent boosters in the US is 17%. But those >=65 are at 43.3%. The reason is that currently over 85% of the people dying from Covid are >=65.
But what is definitely weird is that blue states are covalent boosted at a much higher rate than red states. So overall in red states its about 20% to 25% and in blue states its 35% to 50%. With purple states above 30% for the most part (Nevada is lowish though).
Overall in the US people who are fully vaccinated are close to 70%. But people who are >= 65 are at 94.5% (and people >=18 are at 79%)
Looking at the weekly death rate in the US from Covid its currently at about 900 though in prior weeks it was at 1500 or so. So I would guess that about 37,500 to 75,000 people will die this year from Covid. And over 85% will be over 65.
So what this means is that for people >=65 it is probably between 1% to 1.5% dying each year who aren't vaccinated. This is going to include a substantial % of people who can't get vaccinated (like maybe half). Something like 2% to 3% of people can't get vaccinated due to medical conditions.
For people over 65 who have no booster its probably less than 1/10 of 1% (0.001) chance of dying from Covid but still it is likely 3x the death rate of those who have been bivalent boosted.
So my recommendation, if you are over 65, is to get the bivalent booster. I will be getting it soon (its been a little over a year since I was last boosted and I'm pretty sure it was an Omicron related booster). It will also likely reduce the chance of catching Covid the first few months after getting it and will also help reduce the viral load issues (so reduced long covid chances).
Is the booster created by the government?
Flu shoot isn’t that uncommon , way before covid .
So what’s the problem ?
Ah, another Trumper claiming Covid is just like the flu. That theory was debunked by my boy Fauci: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dr-...
"You don't get a pandemic that kills a million people and it isn't even over yet with influenza," said Fauci
Spoiler
Not sure if Fauci is just bad at history or if he was trying to pass off another lie there
Yes, read the book by the absolute driveling moron anti-vaxer rfk jr. I'm sure it will be absolutely factually spot on.
You are correct. It is.
In the National Review, journalist Matthew Scully wrote "With courtroom standards of proof — everything cited and sourced to government databases and to peer-reviewed publications — Kennedy details egregious wrongdoing and raises entirely legitimate questions about the workings of the federal health bureaucracy during Covid and long before."[21]
LOL, so awesome.
Hey guys, look at the Wiki article, it says that the book will be absolutely factually spot on. I mean, look at that part of the article, not the rest of it. Ignore the rest of it, because well, it is wikipedia so you have take whatever they say with a huge grain of salt. But the parts I quoted, you don't have to take with a huge grain of salt because, well, they confirm what I already believe.
I have no problem if you want to get 10 boosters I was just saying most people are electing to not get past the first two shots
Why do you think that is
It must be because most people are highly educated about health and far more qualified than medical officials. I feel like such a fool for getting a booster a few months ago; I wish I had understood most people aren't getting it and what that means! :smacks head:
LOL, so awesome.
Hey guys, look at the Wiki article, it says that the book will be absolutely factually spot on. I mean, look at that part of the article, not the rest of it. Ignore the rest of it, because well, it is wikipedia so you have take whatever they say with a huge grain of salt. But the parts I quoted, you don't have to take with a huge grain of salt because, well, they confirm what I already believe.
Sigh. Well I did suggest that people should read the book rather than take my word or wikipedia's on it. Kind of amazes me how people can rubbish a book without reading it but here we are.
