2024 ELECTION THREAD

OMG the endless people quoting Luciom. He's such a great troll.

You rarely see an entire forum so thoroughly ruined by one person.

I'm on here pretty much 24/7 these days since all I've been doing recently is playing online MTTs (sick life, I know), and I can certainly vouch for the fact that he brings "posting liquidity" to the threads in which he participates.

Luciom: I only care about what impacts me directly and climate change has made it sunnier for me so who cares about this influences everyone else

Also Luciom: nobody alive should be allowed to get an abortion or gender affirming care even though this doesn’t impact me directly at all and I think I should influence what impacts everyone else

Luciom either needs a 5 post per day cap or a containment thread where he posts unlimited

It is shameful to let a guy completely overrun to where putting him on ignore isn’t close to enough then keep banning people who are exhausted by his nonsense word vomit. Every single thread is the Luciom show like it’s his ****ing job cuz he’s doing Bitcoin mining on an iPhone game or whatever the **** it is

He is, with no close second, the single worst poster in this forum

Luciom isn't trolling. I am 99.9% certain that he believes exactly what he professes to believe. And if he were the last person on earth, he probably would be carving those same views into the side of a cliff somewhere in the hopes that they would be read by an alien civilization visiting the planet 1000 years from now.

In before I’m banned again

The validity of this view really depends on what you hope to get out of a forum like this one. If you want to read views that you agree with, or that reflect basic human decency, then you are probably correct.

If you want insight into what the non-cartoonish version of dangerous right wing extremism looks like in real time (rather than through the lens of history), then you probably are not correct.

I don't think he's a detriment to the forum and it's not for the reason you gave. I suspect he is fundamentally wrong on some of his views (e.g. climate change) but I'm not well informed enough on the topic to know why or to debate him, so I like reading the responses to his posts from people who can disprove his views as it helps me understand the argument he is making better and to see how it's debunked.

Also, it's just generally not a bad idea to get some right wing opinions from someone who is not a total herp derp like most of the others.

I don't think there is much to understand about his views on climate change. He isn't making some sort of scientific argument that disputes anthropogenic climate change. I'm not competent to get in the weeds on climate change science either. His view is more along the lines of "I don't care that it is occurring because it doesn't negatively affect me." I feel perfectly competent to respond to that view.

I agree that Luciom isn't an idiot mouth breather like many others. I think that the group of people he represents is dangerous for precisely that reason.

Like you, I also see value in reading intelligent responses to people like Luciom.

I don’t give a crap about reading points that are in line with mine, but it’s the volume to which his discourse singularly is inescapable that’s just wild

I’d venture to guess since he abandoned whatever his actual account is for this gimmick account no less than 50% of the posts in this forum were either by him or quoting him. I remain completely baffled by the idea that this forum becoming the Luciom show is a net positive

If I have understood him correctly he is not disputing anthropogenic climate change, but he has some plausible sounding arguments that the impact of it is nowhere near as disastrous as we've been led to believe (in addition, he doesn't care, but that's whatever). So, I am finding reading the responses from knowledgeable posters to that particular line very informative.

I agree, the problem with Luciom's posts (apart from them being mostly incorrect) is simply that there are far too many of them.

However, I wouldn't want to see him banned, though I do sympathise with posters who have him on ignore but are still subjected to pages after page of responses to his quoted posts.

The Luciom account was created in 2007 and has been an active poster in 2017 in various different subforums. I doubt it's a gimmick.

Luciom is probably paid by the post by the "new" owners.

If the new owners knew this subforum existed, it would probably have been shut down a long time ago.

Anyway, back to the matter at hand

Trump shares fake AI image suggesting Kamabla attended Diddy’s freakoffs

Ok he posted another AI fake, it’s not like there’s actual evidence of trump and diddy having a connection that came out of his own mouth

Harris desperate. You don't beg for a 2nd debate if you are winning.

Not your turn to use the family brain cell today, is it, Shifty?

I thought she was hiding under her desk?

She's winning.

I could direct him to a forum for the former but certainly not the latter.

UP seem like decent enough people - they banned you, right?

And erased all traces of your existence by the looks of it, went to check if you were banned and your name doesn't even come up in the search any more.

It Is not disastrous even for the worst affected countries (think Bangladesh), and with that I mean that even with climate change life is going to be bette than today 30 yeaes from now because of economic growth (so no apocalypse is incoming) and it's actually positive (and significantly so) for countries that started as colder than optimum for human beings.

Notice how the response to my "hello? Germany is obviously better off if it gets warmer because it starts as too cold for humans" invariably becomes "yes but think of Indonesia"