2024 ELECTION THREAD

man you know I am pro Ukraine, yet I think it's truly obscene zelensky has any role with any effect on the election, he should be home managing the effort against Russia with the insane amount of money the USA and the EU already gave him.

how can you defend any foreign involvement in American elections at all? really

These are not normal people dude. Trump was literally bragging that Putin endorsed Kamala like 2 days ago. They are spineless cowards that accept election interference whenever it suits them.

I will not condemn Zelensky because he thinks Vance is an extremist for wanting Ukraine to surrender. **** Vance. If someone wants Israel to surrender I expect Netanyahu to say something about them too if asked.

The fact that they welcome Putin’s influence on the election but condemn Zelensky tells you everything you need to know about these sickos.

zelensky as everyone else can say stuff, but posing for photo ops for a party within 2, months of the vote is gross, and doing in with internal travel paid by American taxpayers (if that's true) can't be legal.

no matter what you think of him.

who the hell thought it was appropriate to pay for inter-american expenses for zelensky while he went taking photos with democrats?

you understand how wrong this is, even for Ukraine? the election is still a coin flip, the Senate is going to be republican 75-80%, he wants American money so he needs 10+ republican senator votes, how is it sensible for him to stan for democrats???? he should be praising the many republicans who are pro freedom and anti russia if anything.

Because the Republicans are traitors to the West and hate all our values. Zelensky wanted to meet with Trump to discuss his war plan, which by the way Trump isn’t even in the white house or elected office so why should he, and Trump didn’t accept. Why should Zelensky turn down an invitation from a sitting governor? Did anyone on the Republican side offer to meet with him? because he has met them in the past.

You just want to support these sick traitors to our country by any means possible.

check again what I wrote. who paid for travel inside the USA? that's the outrageous, indefensible thing (again: if it happened).

and no republicans didn't betray anything which is why the house, CONTROLLED BY REPUBLICANS, passed the pro Ukraine aid.

if the speaker wanted to, the bill would have never seen the floor per Hastert rule.

it's truly disgusting that you deny that the republican party, THIS YEAR, did what it had to do to help Ukraine. why do you want to shape a non existing narrative? Ukraine only got money in 2024 because the republican party allowed it to

So you want me to give them credit for half of their party voting against it?

So if only half of the party is full of neonazis, I should praise the full party as being anti-neonazi.

You’re a joke. Voting to send military aid to Ukraine should be automatic. You realize almost every single democrat voted for it right? If they hadn’t voted for it, it wouldn’t have passed.

These people are an embarrassment to the West.

Republicans dont love war enough apparently

it is never automatic to pay for anything related to foreigners no. the fact you claim it is even when you know it isn't makes you a partisan.

republican politicians answer to their voters and for many of them it was expensive politically to vote for 60 billions of American money to be spent on that country.

because they voters mostly don't give a **** about anyone who isn't them, as normal people don't.

you can hate the fact that normal people are selfish bastards as much as you can, bit it stays true.

republicans paid a political price to do the right thing anyway *proving they are a mature party* and you criticize them? jfc this line of thought by you is why bipartisan compromise becomes harder every day.

You’re absolutely right, Luciom.

Only half of the Republican party wants the West to fall and for Putin to take our place as the world leader. Very serious and mature political party.

Thanks for correcting me sir 🙏

I’m sure you praised Democrats for calling out rioting and violence during the BLM protests and called them mature and responsible.

You were literally complaining the other day because 40% of EU parliament didn’t vote for a certain thing you hated and thought was an existential crisis.

I think allowing America to isolate is an existential crisis. I see America losing control of the world as probably worse than entering outright nuclear war.

If China or Russia ever became the dominant powers in the world, say goodbye to any freedom you have if you’re not a super powerful country like the US.

Nothing like a man who can’t get pregnant but has an opinion about abortion lecturing 50 year old women who can’t get pregnant for having an opinion about abortion

What is it about MAGA that it only attracts the deeply weird, cringe and shitty?

Republican Sen. Mike McDonnell rejected the GOP effort
to change the electoral rules in Nebraska to benefit Trump.

Thank you Mike McDonnell doing the right thing ! You have my respect.

And yet in another post disputing with me the U.S. gives basically nothing to Ukraine , just 0.3 % of gdp meant nothing in explaning Biden deficit ?

But now Ukraine got insane amount of money from the U.S. ?

So did the U.S. give a lot of money or they didn’t to Ukraine ?
U can’t change your answer depending on what you like or not …

Ironic comment considering how Trump personally tried to get Zelensky to investigate his political rival in the last US election.

No, the problem is Republicans don't love protecting Democracy, both here and abroad.

Opposing military assistance to Ukraine is not an anti-war position.

At best (and this is really a far more flattering light than it merits), you could see it as a pacifist position.

Doing what some Republicans and Trump does and praise Putin, the Russian military and their invasion is neither, that just makes you the modern day equivalent of these guys:

As for the debate of Zelensky, he responds to statements about what his Ukraine should do and policy signals that would doom his nation. Those statements were made because Zelensky has to respond. His actual response is, as is the norm in American politics, irrelevant. What matters is how it can be painted. Those who started the ball rolling and awaited Zelensky's response wants this to be political and they want it to play in the election. Don't be naive.

there are no indications that Trump and the Republicans would be appreciably different than the current Democrat plan to hurt Russia with regards to extending the Ukraine war. I dont think you guys need to worry.

Donald Trump is so far up Putin's ass he could brush Putin's back teeth

weird bc I remember Trump slapping massive sanctions on Russia, expelling tons of diplomats, and supporting this last massive weapons infusion to Ukraine.

My favorite was when he called Putin's invasion of Ukraine "brilliant."

It just took months of constant public bi-partisan pressure to get him to sign sanctions and expelling diplomats is pretty lol

Musk twitter objectively promotes far right and anti-trans content by default

A friend who is a bi-citizen of Switzerland and USA, was informed by her "home" state election officials (Missouri) that since she has never lived in the state or the USA at all, she is ineligible to "cast a ballot" (they don't say "you can't vote"). This is different from in the past and I wonder if anybody has information on that, because she asked me to check on it if I could. I think she is a US citizen because her mother was a citizen of USA when she, my friend/the daughter, was born, though living in Europe and they never returned. So citizen by birth but never lived in USA used to vote, not now??

Coordi not sure if you care, but if you do, even if you don't follow anyone as soon as you start spending seconds looking at content , that content will be pushed to you.

So he went looking for some racist/alt right stuff to highlight at the beginning, this is why he sees more racist/alt right stuff, which he opens and comments (and keeps open probably much longer than what we see in the edited video), and he is in the same self-fulfilling loop anyone who actually started following alt right accounts would be until he starts searching for different stuff *and spends time looking at it*.

I don't think the guy making the video is in bad faith he prolly doesn't know and thinks the algo only looks at followed people until you write your own content. But it doesn't, your engagement is the metric and every time you stop scrolling that's a signal of engagement (vs stuff you scrolled away)

Looks like not all states allow people in those circumstances to vote

Missouri in fact isn't on this list

https://www.fvap.gov/citizen-voter/reside

Federal Voting Assistance Program

Americans can vote. Wherever they are.

its my experience that the algorithm often inexplicably promotes the more extreme reactionary viewpoints.