2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
I dont think the Dems will do enough to protect abortion or anything else really.
again, its not just Gaza. Dems have moved far right on almost everything else including immigration and law enforcement and are openly courting neocon warmongers like the Cheneys.
probably given the Dems stance on well everything.
I agree that they’ve moved right on some things and won’t do enough on many issues but they’re still less damaging than a Trump GOP in aggregate. I’m still curious though about my hypothetical. If you knew for certain that your vote would have decided Clinton vs Trump and stopped the rollback of Roe, would you still not have voted Clinton?
I mean….wat
Also the reports of this dude building a compound for his 11 kids and 4 baby mamas is…..some profoundly insane ****
edit: Does anyone know why youtube embed does not let you link to a time here? At least if I try to embed the link above it does not. I thought it used to work.
I agree that they’ve moved right on some things and won’t do enough on many issues but they’re still less damaging than a Trump GOP in aggregate. I’m still curious though about my hypothetical. If you knew for certain that your vote would have decided Clinton vs Trump and stopped the rollback of Roe, would you still not have voted Clinton?
I would not vote to end Roe
Well that’s the intellectual pitfall of being a single issue voter now isn’t it?
I will happily take least bad on one issue to avoid massive catastrophe on many others
That's easy to say but I wonder if you would really feel anything like that if you had family/friends and their communities being destroyed.
As with 2016 the likely result will be close enough that any one of 20 different topics can be used to explain why it went one way or the other
This, but I also expect certain groups/issue voters to be blamed for a loss should the Dems lose, rather than blaming the party for not doing a better job of trying to reach people on those issues.
This, but I also expect certain groups/issue voters to be blamed for a loss should the Dems lose, rather than blaming the party for not doing a better job of trying to reach people on those issues.
we're focusing on a loss but the best result for the pro-palestinan cause is probably the democrates narrowly winning without their support.
It's a ****ing awful position to be in.
I like how my entire post addressed exactly what you said but you redacted it to make this point
I just quoted your post unedited. You added a bit afterwards
This is the bit you added
If Palestinian-Americans are sitting it out I can’t say I blame them cuz that single issue is a massive single issue
But if generic white bro is using that as a single issue, man **** you
I'm more sympathetic with that.
I think it's ok to discuss if "real left" people at the end are going to vote Harris or not, and / or to try to guesstimate how many will stay at home or vote Stein over Gaza or whatever else motivates the "real left", in a thread about elections in the USA.
They might not matter, but we'll only know after the fact. At some point in the last couple of months for example Michigan, which should be blue, was in play partly because if you think enough "real leftists" care aboit Gaza et al enough, Mic
bro I got baited into talking about Elon musk
Sure am
You on the other hand edited that post just now
Cool. You’re a liar
God bless
It doesn't even make sense. I'm sympathetic with the bit you added and my response makes no sense if it was already there as it's basically repeating what you said.
I modify my posts very regularly. i dont pretend not to. it sometimes causes confusion - it's not the end of the world
It is very funny to me to watch the bernie shitbros who totally voted for biden but are totally down for burning it all down anyway cuz (insert one item that gives them plausible deniability to justify them being down for the cause)
Not a targeted indictment on any one person ITT, just a general observation on the bernie shitbros in general loudly announcing ‘I voted for biden but now I have no choice but to vote for trump because of (random single issue)’
**** off
No you
Sorry, Allah bless you
