2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?

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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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The only things that are certain are:

1. Republicans will take control of the senate
2. The presidency and the house will go to the same party


Republicans can probably lose the presidency barely and keep the house.


by AquaSwing k

Can't we reenable the conspiracy containment thread and get back to the old, "Cite or ban" by a mod and do some banning around here?

All of this **** reposted from X that's easily disproved shouldn't have a home here.

Is this a sentiment that is echoed by the majority of posters here?

Can someone tell me how past containment threads have worked here?


by Crossnerd k

Is this a sentiment that is echoed by the majority of posters here?

Can someone tell me how past containment threads have worked here?

ofc its what they want. and they want to leverage it against people they disagree with.

for instance, although this post is full of conjecture and without citations, no one in their right mind would say cite or ban.

by Gorgonian k

Still seeing numbers that indicate a clear Harris victory everywhere. Turnout is huge, and when turnout is high, democrats win in all the swing states, historically. Female turnout is through the roof. Every indication is the polling of the last month has been an absolute joke, and every indicator before that was a clear Harris victory.

I don't see how any Trumper without their head in the sand would be remotely confident.

And sure enough, the GOP is panicking and Trump's tweets are hilariously pa

but if a similar post was made in favor of Trump or even just expressing slight anger at the Dems and Kamala then they would be howling for a ban.


Can we have a containment thread for all the whining, humorless, holier than thou leftists in this forum. Then they can bore themselves to death instead of everyone else.


by Victor k

ofc its what they want. and they want to leverage it against people they disagree with.

for instance, although this post is full of conjecture and without citations, no one in their right mind would say cite or ban.

but if a similar post was made in favor of Trump or even just expressing slight anger at the Dems and Kamala then they would be howling for a ban.

Oh look, a bad faith poster pretending to not understand the difference between something offered as opinion and something offered as fact. Quelled surprise.


by Brian James k

Can we have a containment thread for all the whining, humorless, holier than thou leftists in this forum. Then they can bore themselves to death instead of everyone else.

Sure. But if you're the only one left, who is really being "contained"?


by Bubble_Balls k

That’s fine and I don’t disagree but I’m not talking about the individual coming to a personal realization. The people who have had a change of heart more than likely came to that as a result of seeing a Trump administration in action, not being castigated. Choosing to blame them isn’t helping but considering who you failed to reach (whose issue isn’t totally outside the bounds of the party’s identity) might.

Again, I don’t think anything I do will “help”. It’s just accurate to blame them and they agree. If people were smarter and less susceptible to both sidesism propoganda, 2016 would have been the end of trumpism snd we’d likely be in a much better place overall.


by Brian James k

Can we have a containment thread for all the whining, humorless, holier than thou leftists in this forum. Then they can bore themselves to death instead of everyone else.

Hold on, you would describe your posting as ‘funny’?

Jesus Christ


Also I think the funniest part of BJ’s post is that by definition if he got what he wanted he would be banned from interacting with the ‘leftists’ because they’re in their own containment thread

And he’d be mad at that too


by StoppedRainingMen k

Hold on, you would describe your posting as ‘funny’?

Jesus Christ

Oh no wait you think humor is thinking it’s funny that a candidate for president who happens to be notoriously and spectacularly racist is telling people in milwaukee the most famous person in milwaukee who is both Greek and black is less Greek than he is cuz he’s white

Man, how did I not realize what a hilarious zinger that is. That’s my bad man, I should be contained in a thread where I never have to interact with you again. You make a good point


by Crossnerd k

Is this a sentiment that is echoed by the majority of posters here?

Can someone tell me how past containment threads have worked here?

Basic idea is that you tell someone like PB that he can't post his conspiracy lunacy outside the containment thread. And then he gets a ban if he doesn't comply.


by StoppedRainingMen k

Hold on, you would describe your posting as ‘funny’?

Jesus Christ

Yeah. I would rate BJ as one of the least funny posters in the entire forum. He is pretty much the king of conservative banality.


by Victor k

ofc its what they want. and they want to leverage it against people they disagree with.

for instance, although this post is full of conjecture and without citations, no one in their right mind would say cite or ban

I mean I disagree with you on basically everything but as far as I can tell I’ve never put you on ignore or called for you to be banned


by Rococo k

Basic idea is that you tell someone like PB that he can't post his conspiracy lunacy outside the containment thread. And then he gets a ban if he doesn't comply.

I’ll have to think about it. Open to opinions


by campfirewest k

What numbers are you using? The RealClearPolics numbers give Trump an edge.

fwiw

Last update: 10:45 a.m., Saturday, November 2. At this point, there’s enough new polling that it’s hard to know exactly what’s influencing the model, but Harris is gaining in our forecast, and it’s converging toward a truly 50/50 forecast. A strong set of YouGov polls, plus a Washington Post poll showing her ahead by 1 point in Pennsylvania, are surely part of the reason why. Her win probability remains ever-so-slightly below Trump’s but is the highest it has been in two weeks.


people do egg him on. thats kind of on them. if dude is going to say that Lloyd Austin is dead and replaced by a cyborg or whatever and the patriots are about to take over then I just chuckle and move on.


by d2_e4 k

Oh look, a bad faith poster pretending to not understand the difference between something offered as opinion and something offered as fact. Quelled surprise.

funny, Im not the only one that noticed the lack of citations

by campfirewest k

What numbers are you using? The RealClearPolics numbers give Trump an edge.


by ecriture d'adulte k

Again, I don’t think anything I do will “help”. It’s just accurate to blame them and they agree. If people were smarter and less susceptible to both sidesism propoganda, 2016 would have been the end of trumpism snd we’d likely be in a much better place overall.

And as I’ve said numerous times now, I’m not talking about randos on poker forums but rather politicians and pundits. And being accurate doesn’t make it politically beneficial in the context I’m talking about. They can be technically right to some degree and nonetheless hurting their cause if the commentary focuses on how stupid, racist, misogynistic, etc the people are who choose not to vote Democrat.


by Victor k

funny, Im not the only one that noticed the lack of citations

Funny how? Funny as in you're too stupid to understand what I said? That's not particularly funny for me, and I respectfully suggest it should be even less funny for you.


by Bubble_Balls k

And as I’ve said numerous times now, I’m not talking about randos on poker forums but rather politicians and pundits. And being accurate doesn’t make it politically beneficial in the context I’m talking about. They can be technically right to some degree and nonetheless hurting their cause if the commentary focuses on how stupid, racist, misogynistic, etc the people are who choose not to vote Democrat.

Randos on poker forums = pundits now, along with everyone else. You didn't get the memo?


by Victor k

people do egg him on. thats kind of on them. if dude is going to say that Lloyd Austin is dead and replaced by a cyborg or whatever and the patriots are about to take over then I just chuckle and move on.

He doesn't need much egging.


Parachuting in after reading a few of the most recent pages. Here are my feelings:

  • Kamala wins
  • Brown wins, but Tester doesn't make it
  • Cruz barely holds on in Texas. I think it will be like Ron Johnson/Barnes level of close. I think too many right leaning individuals moved to Texas during Covid and Texans do not vote. We need more cycles and investment to flip Cruz out.
  • Polling industry will have a reckoning if it's a blow out either way. I think they are not capturing Democratic/independents similar to how they did not capture Republicans in 2016. The cross tabs on a lot of polls are WHACK
  • If Trump loses, I don't think he runs again in 2028 (prison, age, health, etc.). If he doesn't run, he will put zero effort into helping his GOP successor or he will try to burn down the GOP if he feels they are not giving him enough respect. If someone like Charlie Baker or Hogan run for the nomination and get it and they talk ill of Trump, he's going to go nuclear on the GOP.

Prediction: if Kamala wins the election I will make a post that says “the patriots are in control! Long live the deep state and the uniparty!”


by integratedlift23 k

Parachuting in after reading a few of the most recent pages. Here are my feelings:

  • If Trump loses, I don't think he runs again in 2028 (prison, age, health, etc.). If he doesn't run, he will put zero effort into helping his GOP successor or he will try to burn down the GOP if he feels they are not giving him enough respect

Here's why I hope Kamala wins, although I don't think it matters much as far as my day-to-day goes. If Trump wins, this playbook of acting the way he does carries on. If Trump loses, hopefully the GOP burns itself down and adults build it back up? Hopefully?

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