The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!)
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in may 1940 france's main defensive tactic of hitting the german tanks with baguettes had failed, and britain had no army and half an air force. the smart people in the room were ready to seek terms (surrender), and hitler was prepared to give generous terms as he wanted peace in europe so as to build up for the soviet showdown unmolested
the alternative of fighting on gave no realistic prospect of victory and guaranteed the widespread destruction of british cities
so, fighting on made no sense, but fortunately we had a drunken depressive racist who loved war in attendance that day, and by some accounts he single-handedly prevented us from exiting the war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_Briti...
so churchill was essential, but the real hero was roosevelt, whose public was not even a little bit interested in getting involved in another of europe's conflagrations after the senseless loss of hundreds of thousands of american soldiers in ww1. he skillfully managed to get his country into the war, and saved the world. thanks usa
You guys can literally play this absurd game with FDR if you want. How would it go.....
1) Because of his direct choices on immigration/refugees, he missed saving the lives of at least 190k Jews. It was probably much more.
2) His terrible decision at Yalta lead to hundreds of thousands of people being imprisoned and tortured in brutal communist regimes. That's probably putting it lightly.
3) What was it, over 100k Japanese Americans to camps? Something like that?
4) Dude was proooooobably at least Vicgpt level antisemitic. Closest antisemite kind of thing.
5) His stance on lynching wasn't amazing. (could have been much better)
So HORRIBLE man, amirite? Certainly not the man Xi, Putin and Sinwar are. All of you great men in that spot far outshine him!
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We're not talking about Stalin or the goosteppers but on Winston's nutty theories regarding Jews, which you seem to think was perfectly reasonable at the time, hence my "wow".
They were, and they were shared by many people in the USA as well.
It wasn't even obvious the "elders of Zion" was a fake by then yet.
Man, contextualize things!
You guys can literally play this absurd game with FDR if you want. How would it go.....
1) Because of his direct choices on immigration/refugees, he missed saving the lives of at least 190k Jews. It was probably much more.
2) His terrible decision at Yalta lead to hundreds of thousands of people being imprisoned and tortured in brutal communist regimes. That's probably putting it lightly.
3) What was it, over 100k Japanese Americans to camps? Something like that?
4) Dude was proooooobably at least
...Having issues with Churchill makes you a fan of Xi, Putin and Sinwar?
Quite the projectionist aren't you? 
By denying the existence of gender separate from sex, you are, in fact, saying to all transgender people that "it's all in their head" and they suffer from delusions. That is the very thing that is prohibited in this forum. You are welcome to your opinion. But that opinion, contradicted by the major medical associations who deal with this subject matter, is not welcome here.
I don't know why you keep saying that. Gender is a social construct. That doesn't mean it isn't real. Like most social constructs it is very real and has a very real impact on one's life.
When we talk about social constructs we're ultimately talking about cognitive psychology-- about how we interpret and process the world. We take reality and then we filter it through what they call "schemas" in order to make sense of it. It's possible that we have to do this, or it's possible that these schemas literally make us who we are and form our egos and that enlightenment comes from cutting through all of the schemas and arriving at your true self. That would definitely be the Buddhistic take.
So yes, you are correct in that those schemas are important and "very real" for people. It still doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of bullshit in them. "Gender" is one such schema. People like Dunyain will talk about evolution and how gender roles are functional for society-- and perhaps he's right to an extent. But that doesn't change the fact that it's still just an idea that we have about ourselves and how the world is.
lol trying to factor in the integral Churchillian take on the subject.
F all goyim. You've no further say in the affairs of Israel or the Jewish people
Next
lol trying to factor in the integral Churchillian take on the subject.
F all goyim. You've no further say in the affairs of Israel or the Jewish people
Next
We can do Ghandi. Ghandi who wrote Hitler a letter where he called Hitler his "friend", and said “Nor do we believe that you are the monster described by your opponents.”
He also said to the Brits during WW2:
“This manslaughter must be stopped. You are losing; if you persist, it will only result in greater bloodshed. Hitler is not a bad man.”
He told the Jews:
they "should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. As it is, they succumbed anyway in their millions.”
2p2 proclaims you are a very very baaaaad man!
Wat? Mussolini was a socialist allied with Nazis lol, can't get much worse than that except being actually a Nazi yourself.
Churchill ended up crushing Italy in northern Africa (my grandpa was artillery there) and in Greece , as he had to correctly.
Next level to call Mussolini a socialist. Bravo.
Yes even antisemitism wasn't the same level of moral bankruptcy in all historical periods, it's much much much worse since Nazism happened and we know the extent of the Holocaust.
To clarify, victor is much worse than any random antisemite in Spain in the 16th century. Like not even comparable
We can do Ghandi. Ghandi who wrote Hitler a letter where he called Hitler his "friend", and said “Nor do we believe that you are the monster described by your opponents.”
He also said to the Brits during WW2:
“This manslaughter must be stopped. You are losing; if you persist, it will only result in greater bloodshed. Hitler is not a bad man.”
He told the Jews:
they "should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. As it is, they succ
Interesting, and why the opinion of man is irrelevant, or should be.
And needed not that any should testify of man.
It's a game of chance out there. Props to Churchill for going full jihad
Ye it's incredible to call someone who led the main socialist newspaper in Italy to great success a socialist
Luciom Luciom, please sir.
Benito was only born to a socialist dad. He was only named after a leftist, and both his middle names after Italian socialists. He only wrote for L’Avvenire del Lavoratore (The Worker’s Future) for like 2 years. He was only the editor of a socialist newspaper, and praised Karl Marx regularly. He only believed strongly in Lenin's ideas on "state capitalism". He only established a state-driven economic model in Italy. He only basically copied Lenin's "Third Way".
So other than THAT, really the dude didn't care much for socialism at all 
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Or his brand of fascism, like most of them, was born right out of you know what
Luciom Luciom, please sir.
Benito was only born to a socialist dad. He was only named after a leftist, and both his middle names after Italian socialists. He only wrote for L’Avvenire del Lavoratore (The Worker’s Future) for like 2 years. He was only the editor of a socialist newspaper, and praised Karl Marx regularly. He only believed strongly in Lenin's ideas on "state capitalism". He only established a state-driven economic model in Italy. He only basically copied Lenin's "Third Way".
So other
And he only left the Italian socialist party over a strong disagreement on war intervention (in world war one), while fully, entirely agreeing with everything else about how the state and the economy and society should be organized
Go get inspired, Vic. Read a book on Gandhi
Boring af, your current iteration of yourself
that would be nice, but they arent going to. ask NATO to not try to start a war with them.
