Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
War economy works good while you're at war but their unemployment is going to sky rocket when the war ends. America had a big issue after WWII but lucky for them all the other industrialized nations were blown to pieces during the war and America became a manufacturing powerhouse while the rest of the world rebuilt. Even if Russia "wins" it's going to be tricky transitioning back from a war economy.
Unemployment isn't necessarily going to skyrocket, because so many working age adults got killed or incapacitated by the war, and immigrants mostly left because of actual material poverty, that jobs will be plentiful for survivors.
Problem is the actual production per capita won't be, and already isn't.
This is more akin to continental europe after WW1, where the coming back of maimed and incapacitated soldiers triggered social and economical disasters in various countries including italy.
With the additional problem of the emigration of workforce risk, which i don't think Putin will be able to block, in the sense that if/when the war ends given the dire economic situations the best and the brightest will leave, after relationships are renormalized with european countries (which they will be, if the war ends).
Btw the same applies to Ukraine, they are done for, no coming back at all, even if a fraction of the refugees don't come back that's gg ukraine forever. Their demographic pyramid was already terrible because of brain-drain pre 2022, now it's completly unsustainable and guarantees societal collapse in the medium term.
Unemployment isn't necessarily going to skyrocket, because so many working age adults got killed or incapacitated by the war, and immigrants mostly left because of actual material poverty, that jobs will be plentiful for survivors.
Problem is the actual production per capita won't be, and already isn't.
This is more akin to continental europe after WW1, where the coming back of maimed and incapacitated soldiers triggered social and economical disasters in various countries including italy.
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Sad but true
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Russian bastards hit Zaporizhzhia with guided bomb. Right in the middle of the street.
13 killed... 30 Wounded... People without hands, legs... What a ****ing bloody mess.
#russiaisterroriststate
