British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Diehard Leopards Will Eat Your Faces party voter complains that leopards are eating people's faces.
iirc you were the face meal cheerleader some months ago when the twitter police were doing some weird soviet union ****, and then did a pikachu face when corbyn and friends got hassled for speech
annoying parents make a nuisance
school responds by trying to have them imprisoned. succeeds
That's an extremely strange bit of police procedure, at least as it's presented here. Why it would need more than one officer to have a word and establish that there was no case I can't imagine. A custodial interview obviously wasn't indicated, and peremptory arrest without a warrant in such a case could well be illegal (assuming they didn't have one, and, if they did, that would be even more completely mad).
That's an extremely strange bit of police procedure, at least as it's presented here. Why it would need more than one officer to have a word and establish that there was no case I can't imagine. A custodial interview obviously wasn't indicated, and peremptory arrest without a warrant in such a case could well be illegal (assuming they didn't have one, and, if they did, that wou
looks like the school managed to convince the police those parents were completely unhinged and dangerous, and the police believed school staff and governors on their word, then it came up it was utterly exaggerated.
seems like a case where the people who made the wildly indefensible accusations should be liable criminally and civilly more than the police liable of misconduct.
if several credible people mount a case of extreme harassment and dangerousness and presumptive imminent violent threat what is the police supposed to do?
If it was exclusively people fleeing to save their lives from wars (the only people who legitimately have a right to asylum), there would be no gender skew at all (if anything there would be a little pro-women skew as a war torn nation will have fewer young adult men alive than women, as they disproportionately die in wars).
Also to note, so many people claim to be 16 or 17 when they are 18+, for obvious reasons (so stop calling them "children" thanks)
If it was exclusively people fleeing to save their lives from wars (the only people who legitimately have a right to asylum), there would be no gender skew at all (if anything there would be a little pro-women skew as a war torn nation will have fewer young adult men alive than women, as they disproportionately die in wars).Also to note, so many people claim to be 16 or 17 when
Or maybe these people are exactly like you and are fleeing war instead of fighting?
If my country is invaded i flee, i am not a samurai jfc, doing the best interest of me and my family is the moral imperative above all.
If i can't flee then ofc i submit to the invader until i can leave.
It's only when the alternative is certain death that you fight from a weaker position with the odds against you.
looks like the school managed to convince the police those parents were completely unhinged and dangerous, and the police believed school staff and governors on their word, then it came up it was utterly exaggerated.seems like a case where the people who made the wildly indefensible accusations should be liable criminally and civilly more than the police liable of misconduct.if
They're supposed to check it out and not go in mob-handed arresting people and holding them for eight hours on zero evidence. And it gets loonier. The police threatened a Hertfordshire county councillor that she had to stop communicating with the school (to look into the parents' case) or she'd be a 'suspect' and potentially get raided as well. And she's elected and they aren't.
A county councillor has been warned that she faced becoming a suspect if she helped parents who complained about their daughter’s school.
Michelle Vince, of Hertfordshire county council, has taken the step of installing a home security doorbell system, as she fears her property will be raided after sending emails on behalf of Maxie Allen, 50, and Rosalind Levine, 46, who raised concerns over the recruitment process for a new headteacher at Cowley Hill Primary School.
She told The Sunday Times the case raises serious questions about police “taking away democratic rights” from elected representatives.
In an email sent to her from a Hertfordshire police officer on December 20 2024, ahead of the arrests, they said: “I ask that your communication (with the school) ceases from this point onwards as you may find yourself liable to being recorded as a suspect in a harassment investigation.”
The Hertfordshire Police and Crime Commissioner says police should never have got involved in the disagreement at all.
Jonathan Ash-Edwards, the Police and Crime Commissioner for Hertfordshire, ordered a review after Mr Allen and Ms Levine were reportedly detained in front of their young daughter by six officers before being left in a cell for eight hours.
Mr Ash-Edwards said Hertfordshire Constabulary should never have involved itself in the first place after the parents criticised Cowley Hill Primary School in Borehamwood on a WhatsApp group.
“There has clearly been a fundamental breakdown in relationships between a school and parents that shouldn’t have become a police matter,” he said.
“I will look at what more can be done with mediation services in Hertfordshire to help amicably resolve disputes without police involvement.
“While people should be courteous and go through the proper channels when raising concerns about a public service, the public should be able to express their views without worrying they’ll get a knock at the door from the police.”
He has ordered the county's new Chief Constable to carry out an inquiry, which will report on Tuesday.
Russell Brand charged with rape and sexual assault
Actor and comedian charged with rape, indecent assault, oral rape and two counts of sexual assault, say police
Took way too long to happen imo
A comment from someone (now deceased) on a West Ham forum when these allegations broke (I'm paraphrasing):
I used to knock about with Russell a bit when I was younger. Hearing these allegations, I'm not that surprised.
I also know someone that he made a pass at once. She said he wasn't unpleasant but very persistent.
The most recent of those alleged incidents is 25 years old. Hard to believe that anyone would care about some B list celebrity that is alleged to have committed sexual assault that long ago if they weren't a Trump supporter now. Just comes across as political.
The most recent of those alleged incidents is 25 years old. Hard to believe that anyone would care about some B list celebrity that is alleged to have committed sexual assault that long ago if they weren't a Trump supporter now. Just comes across as political.
I'd imagine the victims care. It doesn't come across as political to me, it just looks like a wrong 'un might eventually be getting what he deserves.
Probably longer than is desirable but a crime committed in privacy by one person against another is by its nature trickier to prosecute than most crimes.
I can believe it because Hinton is a good guy who's been warning us about the sentience of AI for a while now.
Not watching this video though because I'm sure Tory boy Peston (a former pupil from North London's posh state school Highgate Wood) makes his lack of impartiality very clear and my blood doesn't need any extraneous boiling these days.
I can believe it because Hinton is a good guy who's been warning us about the sentience of AI for a while now.
Not watching this video though because I'm sure Tory boy Peston (a former pupil from North London's posh state school Highgate Wood) makes his lack of impartiality very clear and my blood doesn't need any extraneous boiling these days.
It's very short and I think you'll enjoy it
Definitely but at least he isn't dead like Saville and fayed
The most recent of those alleged incidents is 25 years old. Hard to believe that anyone would care about some B list celebrity that is alleged to have committed sexual assault that long ago if they weren't a Trump supporter now. Just comes across as political.
Absolutely political and not because four different women have accused him of rape and sufficient evidence exists to charge him. I bet if it wasn't a Trump supporter the UK police- who obviously hate the president of a foreign country- would be all like "Pfft, what's a mere multiple counts of rape eh? I mean it happened bloody yonks ago, all a storm in a teacup innit?" But because he's a Trump supporter, they're all like "rape is a crime, you're now being charged, don't have to say anything but could harm your defence in court blah blah".
Bloody typical but what you expect with Labour in charge eh? On the bright side though, if he is convicted, at least he can go on rule 42. or whatever that nonce protection rule is called.
Hey I wonder if Lucy Letby supports Trump...
Hopefully he’ll try to disarm them by doing one of his West Ham songs only to find that most of them are Millwall.
You'd think replacing Rees Mogg with someone better was a low bar...
MP Dan Norris has been arrested on suspicion of rape, child sex offences, child abduction and misconduct in a public office.
The Labour Party says it "immediately suspended" the MP for North East Somerset and Hanham after being made aware of his arrest.
Avon and Somerset Police confirmed that a man in his 60s was arrested on Friday and released on conditional bail.
BBC News has contacted Norris for comment.
Norris, 65, was elected as the MP for North East Somerset and Hanham in 2024, defeating the Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg.
