British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Thanks, you too. We’re hoping to get out for a spot of early autumn al fresco lunch, as it should reach the 20s.
You’re confusing umbrage with defending others from unwarranted attacks, and most people think this is a good thing. Clearly you disagree.
yeah being called ms instead of miss (or whatever your nitpick was) is truly an atrocity against humanity.
Trying to paint a modern moderate married Muslim as a single woman hellbent on intifada is just the usual inflammatory smears we've come to expect from this poster, but you've never been good at reading between the lines.
It's got worse, and Sultana is now threatening to sue Corbyn and his 'boys' club' for defamation, apparently, which is all a bit odd.
I wonder if everyone's favourite white knight will come riding into the thread to rescue Miss Sultana now it's Corbyn and his cronies "defaming" her?
It’s good to defend people being singled out for attack because of their ethnicity, Master Elrazor.
Brown skin, Muslim, must be an Islamic extremist. Usual Elracist thought process. He seems fortified after his day out waving his flag around in London on Saturday during the gathering of incels.
Oh I see another here-today gone-tomorrow tory has defected to Reform.
rats blah blah sinking ship blah blah
JFC labour party do something that actually helps people soon else we will have a colossal toad-faced twat in charge whose talent runs the gamut from A to A.
And his freak-show cabinet will be in tow.
Oh I know let's not talk about that, let's bang on about how bad an idea brexit was and talk about that ****wit Corbyn and Party McPartyFace.
Like if brexit hadn't happened, we wouldn't be in this position anyway....
The italianization of the UK
You don't think that Brexit validated and energised Mr Toad and his toadies extremism, and that a resounding defeat would have been a huge setback for his ambitions?
Sometimes you have to accept some responsibility for predictable outcomes and not wave your hands around crying "I didn't vote for this".
Not answering the question says it all.
EU membership was very popular before the hatred and racism joined the campaign, but let's not deflect from you shirking any responsibility for the utter shite show we face now.
Not answering the question says it all.
EU membership was very popular before the hatred and racism joined the campaign, but let's not deflect from you shirking any responsibility for the utter shite show we face now.
hmmm the unpopularity of being part of the common market had much deeper roots completly unrelated to internal european migration
As James Callaghan replaced Harold Wilson and his government slid toward eventual defeat in the “Winter of Discontent”, the Common Market became steadily less popular. By March 1979 the voters were clearly regretting their 1975 decision, with 60% saying they would vote to leave in a referendum and only 32% to stay. A year later, with Margaret Thatcher now prime minister, the gap was even wider: 65% to 26%.
More than 40% of the population wanted out even in the late 90s for ex
https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/polling-hist...
In the ten years that Tony Blair was prime minister, British attitudes to the EU fluctuated between reasonably comfortable majorities for staying in and narrow leads for the “get out” camp. At one point there was a swing of 12% in just three months, from a 53%-32% lead for “stay” to 46%-43% in favour of “leave” between June and September 2000 – as Blair was telling voters that Britain should be playing a role “at the heart of Europe”.
I take full responsibility for leaving the EU. Yep, it was me.
And very happy we aren't in the mostly unelected organisation that actively seeks to undermine, reduce and ultimately remove the powers of national, elected democratic assemblies.
Kind of telling the people wanting to stay in could not find a single positive argument to support that view that stuck, wasn't it.
you live in your own little world, don't you.
But I loathe Farage, the Reform clown show and all the little bigots and racists that have hatched out.
But carry on having a go at me and Elrazor all you want, carry on talking about the Corbyn diversion, instead of actually talking about this shitshow. If it makes you feel good about yourself, you go ahead. Power to you.
But I loathe Farage, the Reform clown show and all the little bigots and racists that have hatched out.
But carry on having a go at me and Elrazor all you want, carry on talking about the Corbyn diversion, instead of actually talking about this shitshow. If it makes you feel good about yourself, you go ahead. Power to you.
I doubt that remaining in the EU would have blunted Farage's claws. Rather the opposite, as Brexit gives him one less thing to complain about. His rise has occurred because since 2008 neither of the historic main parties has managed to revive the economy. The US economy has recovered quite well from the 2008 crash, which the Americans themselves started, so our governing parties are clearly doing it wrong. It is unlikely that Labour's emphasis on ever more strangulatory regulation, taxation and suppression of small-to-medium businesses will do any good. Brexit has imposed obvious friction and drag on the economy, but we're not doing much worse than France and Germany (and they've got bigger pension-funding problems than we have, because birthrate decline is rendering their deluxe schemes unviable). The promises made by Brexiters were obviously false, but we should still be doing better than we are.
It will be a pity if people queue up to buy Nigel's snake oil, because there's no sign that he has enough talented people behind him to run a government. But at the moment it looks as though that will happen anyway, since the Greens and Lib Dems are clearly bonkers and are only interested in hyper-bourgeois identity politics.
Sometimes things change, as when Lloyd George more or less singlehandedly destroyed the Liberals and made Labour the inheritors of the non-Tory mantle, giving us the two-party system of the past century. Things are probably about to change again.
Kind of telling the people wanting to stay in could not find a single positive argument to support that view that stuck, wasn't it.
There were plenty of strong arguments in favour of remaining but the fear of what a leave result would do to the country took over, and guess what? Everything that astute observers said would happen has happened or is probably about to happen.
Well done on empowering the National Front supporting biilionaire-backed grifter Farage. You voting for him was like German liberals voting for Hitler because they were scared of the Communists.
But I loathe Farage, the Reform clown show and all the little bigots and racists that have hatched out.
But carry on having a go at me and Elrazor all you want, carry on talking about the Corbyn diversion, instead of actually talking about this shitshow. If it makes you feel good about yourself, you go ahead. Power to you.
It's your shitshow. Own it.
diebitter and Elracist: We keep voting with the far right but OMG how have we ended up here?
Cameron
Brexit
May
Johnson
Am I forgetting anyone or anything the far right voted for who you also voted for?
