Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
here you go. lots to pick from.
I donβt think Victorβs postings are any more offensive or deliberately provocative than many posters on the other side of a topic. I often donβt agree with him but heβs at least a good foil to people across a spectrum of politics here. Heβs also way more prone to personal attacks than most.
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If he were to post something like that as proof then thatβs reasonable if it was spoilered and clearly indicated what the image contained. I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Israel apologists think no babies have been killed, but I havenβt been following the thread so maybe thatβs really what he was replying to. I just know Victor has a tendency to want to push peopleβs buttons. Thatβs not necessarily a bad thing but I wouldnβt put it past him to unnecessarily sprinkle a thread with images no one asked to see.
I forgot to mention, he also often personally attacks other using by calling them "liberals". For him that's a bigger insult than baby killer.
He tends to speak in generalities, which is what Iβm getting at. Itβs more about his opinion of liberals generally than pointing to just you. He does less of singling out posters than others do.
He tends to speak in generalities, which is what Iβm getting at. Itβs more about his opinion of liberals generally than pointing to just you. He does less of singling out posters than others do.
I find that to be much worse. He paints everyone other than him (and a few of his toadies) as if they are a monolith of error and hatred.
If you disagree with him on one thing, he assumes you are a war mongering racist genocide supporter, and says as much, even if you have not made statements supporting any of that.
Maybe you could show us an example of this rule breaking?
All we hear is rule breaking!
Show us and then we could talk about it... but since you guys have been asked to show us many times for days and you never showed us anything. U probably got nothing.
You been asked for days now.
WTF???
Dude, this happened yesterday. And if you're somehow unaware of how Victor posts, I'm not sure why you even involved yourself in this conversation. If you are aware of how Victor posts and want to say that other people are just as bad, that's one thing, but to suggest you need someone to show you posts of his that are over the line, well, LOL.
Dude, this happened yesterday. And if you're somehow unaware of how Victor posts, I'm not sure why you even involved yourself in this conversation. If you are aware of how Victor posts and want to say that other people are just as bad, that's one thing, but to suggest you need someone to show you posts of his that are over the line, well, LOL.

Is rococo gone for ever as a pure poster , regardless being a mod or not ?
While I accept that this is a viewpoint many here share, I profoundly disagree on principle with the above. Wartime photography is the reality of conflict, and spreading the awareness of that reality is a moral undertaking. We can disagree on Victor's motivations, but sharing the images is not unethical. Seeing is believing. The Napalm Girl photo changed the course of the war i
one thing is that how can we be sure those are actual non staged photos of babies/kids killed by Israeli actions?
pallywood is well known for staging photo-ops, for taking babies dead for other reasons and so on.
if war photos "can change the course of the war" given they can change popular support, it is incredibly important for them to be verified right?
Luciom went to his room for 24 hours because he bragged about his love for bending rules as an Italian, and then proceeded to bend the personal attacks rule in a not so clever way. He also the same day had advocated for "unlimited violence". After checking his user notes, I decided a short timeout would be beneficial for him and others.
I need to check here because it wasn't really clear: so now writing that I consider what user X writes disgusting and embarrassing is a personal attack? I thought we could criticize the content of posts as much as we liked.
Writing that if you are the victim of violence that morally justifies reacting with unlimited violence is against the rules? while calling Hamas resistance fighters isn't?
Let's just check what you wrote
you are poisoning the internet with leftism, the worst ideology in the history of humanity, this doesn't mean I would be morally justified to block you from doing that. you have a fundamental right to your shitty, disgusting, embarrassing opinion
Not saying I agree with bans but this is a pretty strong personal attack imo.
Let's just check what you wrote
Not saying I agree with bans but this is a pretty strong personal attack imo.
personal? personal would be saying something outside the content of the posts!
i mean if someone starts posting about how he wants to deport all non whites from western countries, you can't write "this ideology is horrendous" and so on? really? and marxism is infinitely worse than deporting all non whites from western countries (which is already pretty bad)
People might say that "horrendous" is different to "shitty, disgusting, embarrassing", which are insults.
There's always a fine line to be drawn with these things, which as I keep saying is one of the fundamental problems with having moderation.
People might say that "horrendous" is different to "shitty, disgusting, embarrassing", which are insults.
There's always a fine line to be drawn with these things, which as I keep saying is one of the fundamental problems with having moderation.
how can they be "insults", when referred to an opinion? literally the totality of the words in the dictionary are allowed to comment an opinion , or so i thought.
If you can call an opinion fascism or nazism, surely you can call it disgusting?
you said much worse things about what i write without ever being reprimanded for that.
I mean i thought the clear line was:
1) your opinion are trash (or whatever other epitet) -> always fully allowed
2) YOU are a trash person because you think this -> personal, not allowed
Was i wrong? because there are hundreds of extremely weighty comments on other people opinions in this forum which were never sanctioned. Can i report anyone who uses too strong words to address what i write?
personal? personal would be saying something outside the content of the posts!
i mean if someone starts posting about how he wants to deport all non whites from western countries, you can't write "this ideology is horrendous" and so on? really? and marxism is infinitely worse than deporting all non whites from western countries (which is already pretty bad)
We should ban people who post white supremacist ideology disguised as a hypothetical question to dance around the rules. Especially when it occurs tens of times per day. It seems like we are encouraging this behaviour by allowing it.
We should ban people who post white supremacist ideology disguised as a hypothetical question to dance around the rules. Especially when it occurs tens of times per day. It seems like we are encouraging this behaviour by allowing it.
but not marxists right? because reasons?
I use white supremacy as an example because it generates particular disgust in people like you, so you can understand what i feel when i read marxist opinions.
The questions stands, do you believe forum rules don't allow you to describe white supremacist opinions as disgusting, embarassing, shitty? because it's either you can never do that about any opinion, or you can always do for any opinion
how can they be "insults", when referred to an opinion? literally the totality of the words in the dictionary are allowed to comment an opinion , or so i thought.
If you can call an opinion fascism or nazism, surely you can call it disgusting?
you said much worse things about what i write without ever being reprimanded for that.
Under different moderation rules.
You have the choice of observing whatever rules are in place or ignoring them and getting banned. Deal with it.
If you call someone's views poisonous, shitty, disgusting and embarrassing then imo you've broken the current rules. You think using a thesaurus to use 100 pejoratives to describe someone's views when one mild one would do wouldn't break the rules? Mods have to draw a line somewhere.
but not marxists right? because reasons?I use white supremacy as an example because it generates particular disgust in people like you, so you can understand what i feel when i read marxist opinions.The questions stands, do you believe forum rules don't allow you to describe white supremacist opinions as disgusting, embarassing, shitty? because it's either you can never do that
There's an objective difference between white supremacy, which aims to inflict misery on a very large number of people, and Marxism which (though it may well be misguided) aims to improve people's lives. You're making the ultimate false equivalence.