Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
But I’M the problem if I say the thing 🙄
There seems to be a real gender gap between the tendency for women to equate expressing their emotions about a problem with actually solving the problem and the aversion to this in men.
Women seem to interpret this aversion as “men must be programmed to counterproductively avoid feeling and expressing themselves because why else would they not want to solve the problem.”
While men seem to be better at distinguishing the difference between expressing feelings about the problem and actually solving the problem.
This difference often gets branded as toxic masculinity by women when it’s a fundamental difference in problem solving approach.
If women were successful in transforming men to act more like them, then relations and communication would spike in the short term but unattended problems would pile + compound soon enough.
What am I missing CN? Let me hear it.
We end toxic masculinity and teach men that it’s okay to feel and express their emotions like normal human beings?
I think generally speaking, men would be better off if they listened to their own warning bells and general emotions, but also their own individual triggers - obviously that goes for women too.
I got myself forced into a depressive sedentary lifestyle with my job years ago that caused me to drink way too much for too long and the only thing that actually worked in practice to get me out of that rut was to rage vent by both setting up a Rocky style workout regimen in my garage and participating in a local community boxing event to work towards beating the **** and getting pounded by other men.
I am in no place to claim to know enough about toxic masculinity, or if what i even did is characterized as such, but I think people need a balance of both masculinity and emotional self awareness to get by. At least Im pretty sure that I did.
I think generally speaking, men would be better off if they listened to their own warning bells and general emotions, but also their own individual triggers - obviously that goes for women too.I got myself forced into a depressive sedentary lifestyle with my job years ago that caused me to drink way too much for too long and the only thing that actually worked in practice to ge
Accessing a stronger will by digging into the masculine part of yourself through those masculine activities. When people say “dig deep,” this is what they’re trying to communicate.
The best of the feminine will encourage men to do what you did even if it risks toxic masculinity. Men are not accessing this deeper will solely by speaking to a therapist every week.
That’s not to say the feminine has no role in the process. It can be necessary to identify with and aim at ‘peak feminine’ for motivation. The key is not to over identify with the feminine at the expense of masculine identification.
Toxic masculinity is a legitimate problem, I’m not trying to downplay that.
But the solution for toxic masculinity is more Christianity which provides a place (God himself) to direct the rage associated with injustice. With no Christianity, toxic masculinity gets aimed at other people which inevitably causes backlash against masculinity in general.
This is where "woke" storytelling just falls flat IMO. Is that they so often have attractive young females take on social roles that are not believable at all. We are currently watching Season 2 of "The Last of Us," and they are supposed to have us believe that in a post apocalyptic scenario, attractive young fertile woman are just running around freely hunting zombies and goi
Girl bosses
I think generally speaking, men would be better off if they listened to their own warning bells and general emotions, but also their own individual triggers - obviously that goes for women too.I got myself forced into a depressive sedentary lifestyle with my job years ago that caused me to drink way too much for too long and the only thing that actually worked in practice to ge
Toxic masculinity could be an important topic, but it is often ruined by broadly including traits that aren't inherently toxic.
- Aggression isn't inherently toxic
- Being competitive isn't inherently toxic
- Eagerness to lead isn't inherently toxic
- Explaining things isn't inherently toxic
- Wanting attention isn't inherently toxic
- Impatience isn't inherently toxic
- Risk taking isn't inherently toxic
- Bragging isn't inherently toxic
It also isn't enough that these things take a form that people find unappealing or dislike to label them "toxic". For the label "toxic" to have meaning, it should refer to forms of expression or behavior with the potential for harm. Brief insults to people's sensibilities do not really qualify... that much we have to endure in a world where so many people are living close together.
I've always thought of toxic masculinity being as much about dictating what isn't masculine as what is. So the idea that it makes someone less of a man to express their emotions, to cry, to enjoy dancing etc. is as much an aspect of toxic masculinity as things like dismissing toxic manifestations of traditionally masculine behaviours with "boys will boys" type thinking.
Yeah, that's a hard no from me, dawg.
There is no problem in this world for which the solution is more Christianity.
Bible is a pretty thick book. Slapping Andrew Tate around the head and face 15-20 times with it, would be a pertinent example of more Christianity being the solution for toxic masculinity. So Craig might be on to something here.
Notice how we've all lost track of the Robocop/Predator situation? That is Satan sending craig1245 to distract us from the real questions. He's a master of misdirection, that little devil.
Sounds like the little lady has got her panties all in a bunch. Sad.
Obviously I’m crying while driving, give me a minute
And on your phone, obvs. Accident waiting to happen.
They can drive now?
