Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
If it’s from your screenshot I already said it wad bad. I thought you were saying there was some additional bad thing he said.
I think since then he has been temp banned twice. So he definitely gets moderated.
@Luciom do you want to apologize or retract your statement?
He says awful things nearly constantly dude. I didn't say he didn't get moderated. He should be permanently banned just like captain nazi.
As for any potential response to your ping, he is out of chances with me. I have him blocked so I won't see it anyway.
In my opinion, Luciom should be placed on the 'One Strike You're Out' list that I'm on.
But maybe that's because I'm lonely.
"Anything we can do to eradicate people like you [he was responding to me simply saying I was a leftist] from existence forever should be legal, and morally imperative" That is more than simply calling liberals "horrific scum." It's the type of thing that should not be tolerated among civilized people.He then went on to say that the only use for me and others like me was as org
By the way my interpretation of this is not that he wants to kill millions of leftists in concentration camps. I think it’s his standard “say something in the most exaggerated way possible and then retreat to a much more defensible position”.
But he shouldn’t use the word “eradicate” as that implies an active murder/killing, I agree.
No, I think he has a list in his head of "cultures" ordered by quality. I remember some being described as "shithole" cultures and its people as animals.
In my opinion, Luciom should be placed on the 'One Strike You're Out' list that I'm on.
But maybe that's because I'm lonely.
You might be on a list but its not the mod list
There’s not a single post you can point to where Luciom says “any AI programmed with honesty will be a national socialist” or anything close. I think saying that honesty leads to national socialism should be banned. Maybe of the 3000 posts per day Luciom does, if he says anything close to that you should report one of them and post it in this thread, like I di
But this isn't far from the truth when you feed AI the entirety of the internet including social media and ask it questions about race, is it?
What conclusions would you expect it to draw from all that? Garbage in = garbage out etc.
By the way my interpretation of this is not that he wants to kill millions of leftists in concentration camps. I think it’s his standard “say something in the most exaggerated way possible and then retreat to a much more defensible position”.
But he shouldn’t use the word “eradicate” as that implies an active murder/killing, I agree.
Yeah the fact that he followed it up with multiple posts about how our only use was as organ donors definitely supports that idea.
I'm amazed at the hoops you guys will jump through for the little ****ing facist, but instantly ban someone that supports "national socialism. " He'd never retreat to a more benign position later so **** him.
And no one said anything about concentration camps. He said any means necessary with no limits to completely eradicate them from the planet permanently.
Gosh, look at all that wiggle room for interpretation.
Holy **** dude.
Totally out of character, Luciom, the guy who posts a hundred times a day, is nowhere to be seen.
But this isn't far from the truth when you feed AI the entirety of the internet including social media and ask it questions about race, is it?
What conclusions would you expect it to draw from all that? Garbage in = garbage out etc.
Can you just go look at that guy’s post in context? That’s clearly not what he was getting at.
He says awful things nearly constantly dude. I didn't say he didn't get moderated. He should be permanently banned just like captain nazi.
As for any potential response to your ping, he is out of chances with me. I have him blocked so I won't see it anyway.
Not a fan of Lucio's views but I honestly inferred- possibly wrongly to clarify- that he was being hyperbolic in the midst of a possibly heated exchange. The other dude stated that something that was "reason" got called national socialism, when it actually was a nazi rant against Jews. Then the other guy gave the Jews control everything canard- that's pretty different in fairness.
Jfc
There was no exchange. I was telling another poster I was a leftist, not even talking to him. He then charged in with his rant at me. This is all available to see in this very thread. Feb 11th of this year. It's not hard to find.
Can you just go look at that guy’s post in context? That’s clearly not what he was getting at.
imo this one was less ambiguous:
Every AI eventually becomes "racist" and "antisemitic". It is impossible for a pattern noticing machine not to.
but not different in intention from dozens of Luciom posts about "superior" and "inferior" races and cultures.
imo this one was less ambiguous:
but not different in intention from dozens of Luciom posts about "superior" and "inferior" races and cultures.
Racism is overwhelmingly supermajoritarian worldwide, and was almost univesal across geography and time for almost all human history. Almost all human groups considered themselves superior to others.
Nazism is 12301241902x more extreme and very far from human normal attitude. It is not normal to want to exterminate a specific religious / ethnic group that does nothing bad to you, especially if it is one of the groups that contributed the most, positively, to humanity, proportionally to their size. It is actually quite absurd.
Jfc
There was no exchange. I was telling another poster I was a leftist, not even talking to him. He then charged in with his rant at me. This is all available to see in this very thread. Feb 11th of this year. It's not hard to find.
Fair enough I'll take your word on that but in fairness, you posted a shot of one exchange from four months ago, so I had no way of knowing it was that one exchange and you weren't even talking with him, with all due respect.
Racism is overwhelmingly supermajoritarian worldwide, and was almost univesal across geography and time for almost all human history. Almost all human groups considered themselves superior to others.
bro shocked to learn that no, not all people are racist supremacists
Luciom is a long time poster who mostly follows moderation that contributes as much or more content than anyone. That gives him a much longer leash than a random coming in to full blown nazi post out of nowhere
This makes sense. We have one guy who came in here with the intent to inflame and cause issues. I don't like banning people but if you ever are gonna this was the guy. I see nothing wrong with Lucioms posting. I personally don't read much of it because I have ADD but it seems to be his opinion at least articulated in a non purposefully flaming way.
The people crying about this need to grow up.
