Conservatives try to take down Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson

This was also wonderful. Margie Greene is an American treasure.

I mean look at her here talking sincerely about why in the world do we have to hate Yemeni or Iranian people… as AIPAC demands.
She has no problem going against fellow Republicans and calling them out for causing trouble for American citizens with regards to our high cost of healthcare. She is totally based. She is against sending away money to foreign countries and not just Israel when we have Americans struggling at home.

Love how she calls out AIPAC influencers like Laura Loomer and Mark Levin. They are not MAGA but MIGA. And their rhetoric has gotten so annoying, so tiring almost nobody is watching Mark Levin on weekends on Fox. The guy is a joke.

Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and MTG. Never go full ****** bro. Everyone knows that.

Baby shark is the best song of all time I guess.

Looks like Walsh is waking up… and soon he will be meant with

“Racist”!

“Bot views!”

“Kook!”

Gotta love it lol…the no substance whiny establishment is powerless to do anything…thanks Elon for allowing free speech.

Ah Josh Hammer a disgrace to Judaism….the exact type of representation of the promoting yahoo fanatic who engages in the most wide open racism and then winds and complains about racism from others when it’s simply criticism of a foreign government. You can’t make this stuff up

Hammer even insulted a fellow Jew in Dave Smith. In a debate hosted by Charlie Kirk between Smith and Hammer before the debate and backstage hammer shook hands with Smith and they acted amicably toward each other. But then when the debate started Hammer started insulting. Just total immature behavior.

Maga and far right people just don’t get it .
Already been told to them and its coming eventually .

That is what fascism do (or any other extreme anti democratic regime) .
U always think it’s all good when you are on the good side but it always eventually switch .

That is why a neighbor with contradictoopinions should never be consider enemies .

You have a poor understanding of the current Civil War the Republican Party is going through.

One one side you have the small "c" conservative libertarian technocrat right and on the other you have the conspitard, populist, xenophobic, antisemetic right represented by the likes of Tucker and Candace (that Knights and to a lesser extent Geezer are sympathetic to).

And Trump at the policy level is generally a (corrupt) libertarian technocrat. But he has no problem playing footsie with the populist xenophobic elements of the party. And it is really unclear how the party shakes out once he has moved on.

The heir apparent Vance seems more inclined than Trump to let populist demands dictate his politics. But him being a Harvard graduate with an Indian family sponsored by a gay Bay Area technocrat (Thiel) is a huge political liability, and it isn't clear if he can go populist right enough to appease them. And if he does he may alienate the technocrat libertarian part of the party.

As long as Democrats dont do dumb stuff (like elect socialists as mayors of major cities) there is really no reason they couldn't capitalize on the Republican dysfunction in elections to come.

Your dumb logic doesn’t even make sense. You’re mad at Josh for overgeneralizing and being racist while Candace Owens is saying that all Jews are like this and you cheer her on.

I do appreciate this thread though because it showcases how much of a clownshow the Republican party is. You have to choose between “****** that wants to send a trillion dollars to Israel” and “****** that wants to send no money to anyone and let Russia take over as the dominant world power because le based orthochad Putin”.

Yeah man , they went against their own VP in 2021 ….
that is what those regimes do .

But I guess one day you will see it .
The list is too short for you still it seem .

First was illegal immigrants
Then immigrants.
Then radical left
Then woke.
Then the left.
Then the entire democratic party.
Then universities.
Then legal entities.
Then the enite economic system with tarrifs
Then couple big corps that paid him
Then the medias.
Then the comedians
Afterwards , lacking targeting , they search amongst themselves who’s the next worthwhile victims ….

Don’t worry your turn will eventually come .

Lol denying the proliferation of bots on social media, namely Twitter is just a badge of stupidity.

It’s also interesting that living in a relatively wealthy and educated part of the US, I’ve never met someone irl who is dumb enough to admit they listen to Candace Owens. Literally never heard her mentioned irl in a serious context.

tucker and candice are government employees.

That's a fair question. I suspect I believe that because 'core-Maga' (which is the subgroup I was commenting about) pretty much agree with Trump on almost everything and as such would be more likely to be FoxNews watchers than Candace/Tucker watchers.

Candace and Tucker are far more likely to criticize Trump than Mark Levin or Jesse Waters.

Which government?

Plenty watch both… lots of nuance and different opinions on the Trump voter side compared to the left wing where if you dare criticize blm/wokeism your racist….the small pro Netanyahu no matter what faction of the right is the same as the far left ie smearing folks as racist with no evidence.

Tucker played a vital role in Trumps 2024 victory. Tucker is a patriot …the likes of Ben Shapiro and Laura Loomer who are not MAGA but are MIGA…are loathed by many patriotic Jews and most of the left/right bc of their woke views of the war in Gaza. And they hate the unity of left and right influencers and politicians on opposing the establishment which includes the pro war in Gaza neo cons like Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham.

You can look at this thread and threads like this and see some of the pro war in Gaza folks accuse others of racism constantly. It’s annoying. It is a smear tactic. And their goal is to effectively silence the opposition. There is no attempt at a rebuttal. Whereas rarely or certainly not as much the folks who don’t support giving money to Israel no matter what don’t call people racist or whatever. Just an interesting note.

And it’s not so much of a big deal to call somebody stupid, a troll or something like that. People who use that language are low information and cannot form a rebuttal … But to call someone racist or Nazi is completely different. The attempt there is to effectively silence the person. And in some cases to get them fired from their job or cause a monetary loss. It’s kind of like a way to affect free speech. The obvious goal is that the reader will think well if this person is a racist or Nazi I shouldn’t even talk or associate with them ….this is obviously a goal of the hasbara in their attempt to take down Carlson, Owens and plenty more people even Jews like Dave Smith or Glenn Greenwald. Just call them Nazis and frankly it’s a tactic that does not work in 2025. The Mossad/Israeli gov needs to change this up. They could do a lot better. They have really bad politicians in control in Israel right now.

Someone challenged me on this recently, the distinction, and I didn't have a great response. They said that if most every Jewish institution in America is Zionist, and Jews support those institutions, then what is the real distinction? There are a ton of totally secular Jews who are anti-Zionist and they are on the good side of that distinction. But what about people who give money to institutions which are decidedly Zionist? Wouldn't that be the controlling factor as to whether you are a Zionist? because giving money and endorsement to a pro Zionist organization seems more significant than just saying you're against genocide.

You might say that you're membership in an institution doesn't define your values. But what about an SS officer? It kinda does if you're that, right? If there aren't any positions which are necessarily mapped onto you from an institution then why be a member? Questions of who lives and who dies would seem to qualify as so definitive. in other words, I would say an issue so significant as genocide does define an institution and its members. I have trouble accepting "yeah I don't really agree that genocide is good but the prayers are amazing". It seems to trivialize genocide such that you can't meaningfully say you oppose it.

Democrats could dig up Adam Smiths' corpse and run him for mayor of New York, and the GOP would still be able to successfully portray him as a communist because he dared doubt the wisdom of worshipping the rich.

I don't think Trump is much of a libertarian president. If you want to be a libertarian, you need a lot of respect for power and its use, which is far cry from the Trump presidency. This is an administration that believes in fraudulently named ideas like "unitary executive authority" and "plenary authority" for the presidency. Beneath their facades, these are theories that would vest the presidency with more power than held by the British crown leading up to and during the War of Independence.

This is a reasonable post. My only quibble is that I'm not sure Trump is inherently more the former and the latter. He is inherently corrupt and pathologically narcissistic. But doctrinally, I'm not convinced he is much of anything.

lol, no. If calling bigots Nazis silenced them, this forum would be a ghost town.

Calling bigots nazis usually makes them close advisors to the president.

Tucker has ties to CIA through his father. Candice is married to 5 eyes.

Well, we continue to see people like Ben Shapiro and Randy Fine Call Carlson a Nazi or a Hitler or an anti-Semite. And again we know Randy fine a congressman by the way has said he doesn’t give a **** about Gazans and he would understand if Americans are afraid of Islam . Shapiro previously called for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians out of Israel. And has consistently suggested most Muslims are extremists.

And so if you look at the people who are most critical of someone like Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens…well often they support someone like Ben Shapiro or Fine or they never talk about them. It’s incredible as we see from the video of the Jewish comedian Dave Smith interviewing Carlson. He brings up countless times that Tucker Carlson has said it is against Christianity to be against all Jews or all Muslims or something like that. But No one gives a darn about that when it comes to the people who suggest Carlson is some kind of Nazi or antisemite. It’s the same regurgitated propaganda over and over again “oh Carlson uses coded language , Owens is engaging in classic antisemitism they hate Jews” But don’t talk about the wide open anti-Muslim stance of a sitting congressman like Randy Fine.

And so the people who suggest that Carlson is an antisemite will never be right. There’s no logic to their view. They are ideological. They are propagandists. Maybe they will change in the future who knows. Hey his Carlson’s ever said most Jews are extremists. Ben Shapiro has said most Muslims are extremist so he’s way more of a bigot

Separately we can bring up Nicholas Fuentes who has sat down with Jewish influencers like Dave Smith and Glenn Greenwald. Fuentes has said many times recently that he does not believe in hating everyone. Now again that’s something the anti Fuentes folks don’t give a darn about. We have heard some of the anti Fuentes people say things like “if he had his way he would deport all Jews” or “he’s a Nazi” something like that. …again Fuentes like Shapiro or Randy Fine has said tasteless things…. but one of the points that Dave Smith brings up which is common sense frankly is that “boy if there was an iPhone around in my 20s to record some of the things that I have said.” You get the point

The same people making the claims about Fuentes …would they say that Randy Fine would deport all Muslims if he had his way will they say is Randy Fine a “Nazi” . Oh yeah that’s riiight don’t talk about that. Just call Fuentes a Nazi but not Fine?

And as I’ve said countless times there’s a lot of things Fuentes says that I don’t agree with and I might even call tasteless. But common sense would demand people say the same thing about Ben Shapiro or Randy Fine or else they’re just hypocrites. And stop with the whiny cancel culture…if someone disagrees with someone layout why. Stop just calling people trolls or crazy. It’s getting old.

People around here have seen this song and dance a million times so when they explain why they think something and/or someone is racist and the response is "that isn't racism, you have to be part of the KKK to be racist" they know you are either trolling or just too ideologically captured to reason with logically making it painfully ironic that you toss around the word logic and ideology so haphazardly like a complicated piece of weaponry that you don't really understand how to use

Despite Knights protestations, something gives me the idea that Vice President is not in the cards for Candace.

Racist ****ers when shown the evidence: "Naaaaah, that's not evidence!!!!!!!"