British Politics

British Politics

Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.

Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.

Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...

Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.

Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...

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I disagree. Sunak's was the worst general election campaign in British history: there was a huge blunder almost every day for a long time, and your guy still failed to even reach 34% of the vote.


by ligastar k

i learned today that if you subtract the London generated GDP per capita from ENG'S GDP per capita, you're left w the equivalent of the GDP per capita of Mississippi

for those not familiar w the U.S. state of Mississippi, that ain't good

Great world-city (which would be one of the world's top-20 economies if it were a country) attached to quite small country whose 19th-century regional industries have died out. Obviously London's going to suck in all the talent and investment. I don't know Mississippi at all, but I'm not sure the English regions descend to quite the level of the left-behind parts of the US.


by jalfrezi k

I disagree. Sunak's was the worst general election campaign in British history: there was a huge blunder almost every day for a long time, and your guy still failed to even reach 34% of the vote.

No, I don't think any Sunak gaffe can compare with May attacking her own older voter base with the 'dementia tax', means-testing the winter fuel allowance and ending the 'triple lock' on state pensions. 12-bore point blank in both feet. And Starmer's not my guy, I didn't vote Labour, I voted for an independent.


by 57 On Red k

Great world-city (which would be one of the world's top-20 economies if it were a country) attached to quite small country whose 19th-century regional industries have died out. Obviously London's going to suck in all the talent and investment. I don't know Mississippi at all, but I'm not sure the English regions descend to quite the level of the left-behind parts of the US.

you're spot on here, what with the U.S.'s "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" national ethos

there's no safety net here to be found for the downtrodden


Has potential for some extremist on extremist action




by jalfrezi k

Cuts to the justice system have led us here. In Scotland they're releasing prisoners early due to overcrowding and they're now suggesting that long term prisoners should also be released earlier than normal. And that doesn't include the current **** show that is the courts and the ongoing dispute with solicitors over Legal Aid. I think things are only going to get worse.


by Husker k

Cuts to the justice system have led us here. In Scotland they're releasing prisoners early due to overcrowding and they're now suggesting that long term prisoners should also be released earlier than normal. And that doesn't include the current **** show that is the courts and the ongoing dispute with solicitors over Legal Aid. I think things are only going to get worse.



Oh please oh please, I hope Labour are going to be radical around environmental issues.


Early release is a short term desperation fix. Slag off Starmer a lot but I do like the look of the appointment of Timpson. Will Starmer have the nerve to follow through.

Labour has not yet set out what it will do in the longer term, but Sir Keir's appointment of James Timpson as prisons minister suggests he will pursue a change of approach.

Mr Timpson, the boss of the shoe repair chain which has a policy of employing ex-offenders, said in an interview with Channel 4 earlier this year that "we're addicted to punishment” and that only a third of prisoners should be there.


Yes Timpson was an inspired choice one to please the radicals fed up with career politicians thinking they have the answers to everything.

His chain even offers free dry cleaning of clothes for unemployed people attending interviews, and doesn't use offshoring to avoid tax.


by diebitter k

Oh please oh please, I hope Labour are going to be radical around environmental issues.



environment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prison reform


Dramatic 1890s slump was probably Krakatoa.


youtube comment: Election '05 for the PS2


First real test of the Starmer leadership. Obviously he has to hold his ground over this as it wasn't in their manifesto, and if he caves MPs will routinely rebel on similar issues.

However, there are probably a few conservatives would would vote with the Labour rebels and it's far from a left-wing issue.


I was pretty sure they were planning to scrap this in the first budget and go for the big headline/applause. Ironically it's a bit less likely now because they have turned into a test of strength. I still think they will do it anyway.

Whatever the truth it's a disgrace they didnt just scrap it.


by jalfrezi k

The whole solution for worldwide immigration and asylum problems is for the US to open its borders again, which would also see its economy skyrocket, having positive effects elsewhere. But that isn't going to happen.

While we're talking about what foreign governments should do but won't, then if the US is the big draw to people in the new world then the more obvious solution would be for other new world governments, particularly those in Latin America, to take the US and other developed countries as a model for how to run their own countries and become places that people want to stay in and even move to, as places like Costa Rica and Chile have done.

(not that there's anything wrong about saying what people should do but won't, that's 99% of what political discussion is).



by diebitter k

Oh please oh please, I hope Labour are going to be radical around environmental issues.

The only thing that would be radical about environmental issues is nuking China or India's (or any very quickly developing nation for that matter) massive expansion in fossil fuel powered energy. Anything that can be done domestically is like throwing a paper aeroplane at a freight train


Research though.


by jalfrezi k

This is the xenophobic rag you are quoting (and Owen Jones writes for). Thankfully the comments attached to it say it all.


How pathetic is that lol


by sixfour k

The only thing that would be radical about environmental issues is nuking China or India's (or any very quickly developing nation for that matter) massive expansion in fossil fuel powered energy. Anything that can be done domestically is like throwing a paper aeroplane at a freight train

The amount of wind and solar power under construction in China is now nearly twice as much as the rest of the world combined, a report has found.

Research published on Thursday by Global Energy Monitor (GEM), an NGO, found that China has 180 gigawatts (GW) of utility-scale solar power under construction and 159GW of wind power. That brings the total of wind and solar power under construction to 339GW, well ahead of the 40GW under construction in the US.

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