British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.
Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...
Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.
Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...
This is interesting. Ash Sarkar interviewing the pollster Matt Goodwin on the relevance of him highlighting the Southport children murderer's ethnicity while he describes her, Sarkar, as English:
The issue as i see it is:
- immigration at levels higher than expected
- terrible efforts to manage the immigration
- isolating the negative impacts of the first two points on the poorest and most at risk in society
Whilst doing little to fix any of the three points
Yes, I should think so. We're experiencing historically very high levels of immigration (in the 1970s when the National Front kept banging on about it we actually had net emigration), nobody knows what to do about it and, while they're probably happy to increase the working-age population and hence the revenue base, they don't want to fund the necessary work of expanding housing and public services to take account.
The state of Twitter...
Yes, I should think so. We're experiencing historically very high levels of immigration (in the 1970s when the National Front kept banging on about it we actually had net emigration), nobody knows what to do about it and, while they're probably happy to increase the working-age population and hence the revenue base, they don't want to fund the necessary work of expanding housing and public services to take account.
If you want to maintain the illusion that the riots were only an expression of unhappiness about immigration levels you're going to need to find some clips of rioters abusing Polish, Romanian and Bulgarians as much as they've abused Muslims and black people.
If you want to maintain the illusion that the riots were only an expression of unhappiness about immigration levels you're going to need to find some clips of rioters abusing Polish, Romanian and Bulgarians as much as they've abused Muslims and black people.
Not "unhappiness": full unadulterated hatred for people considered completely incompatible with society .
It's not much about immigration level rather immigration quality.
Speaking your language, they wouldn't riot if the percentage of bankers was 90% foreigner rather than 32% or whatever it is.
Eastern Europeans btw have been kicked out of the country en masse following Brexit
I was asking someone who understands this country, not you. Sorry.
And as usual you're talking crap about Eastern Europeans being kicked out en masse. Stop lying.
Britain would never do it for pride reasons; but at this point it would probably make the most sense if Britain just became a colony (we could use a different word that is less triggering) of the US. Absorb your military and foreign affairs into the US, which would save some money; and streamline a system where British workers could come to participate in our robust economy and some of the tax revenues will go back to fund your socialism and welfare state.
The truth is outside of the London finance bubble, you country is so poor and uncompetitive with most of the world that eventually many upper middle class professionals are going to just leave anyways, and you will get nothing out of it.
Seems like a win win. Britain's can actually get good high paying jobs and afford to buy a house, which they cant get in Britain if they stay. And the US gets workers to contribute to our functional economy.
The only stipulation is no voting. We dont want your socialism and political dysfunction.
Except the usa isa basket case and being a colony sucks big time. (Your objection to us having a vote is pithier)
You are right about the need for different words but eventually we have to rejoin the EU. Being able to stand up to the usa is one of the major reasons.
Weak troll. C-
She meant Etonian
Britain would never do it for pride reasons; but at this point it would probably make the most sense if Britain just became a colony (we could use a different word that is less triggering) of the US. Absorb your military and foreign affairs into the US, which would save some money; and streamline a system where British workers could come to participate in our robust economy and some of the tax revenues will go back to fund your socialism and welfare state.
The truth is outside of the London fina
I've heard of and seen small dick energy, but first time I've ever witnessed no dick energy.
Jordan Parlour from Leeds becomes the first person jailed for social media posts relating to the riots.
Parlour wrote "every man and his dog should smash [the] f*** out of Britannia hotel (in Leeds)" on FB.
To add to his humiliation, the 28 year old's mother wrote to the court. lol.
East Germany vibes
Sooner the East Germany vibes than the 1930s Germany vibes your posts reek of.
Britain would never do it for pride reasons; but at this point it would probably make the most sense if Britain just became a colony (we could use a different word that is less triggering) of the US. Absorb your military and foreign affairs into the US, which would save some money; and streamline a system where British workers could come to participate in our robust economy and some of the tax revenues will go back to fund your socialism and welfare state.
The truth is outside of the London fina
No thanks. We don't want to get as fat as you lot.
and then years go by, things get worse because no-one seriosuly tackles the real problems and more angry, fed up, desperate people think that maybe he was right after all.
That's how he has got this far. May not be farage but eventually it will be someone. Unless we actually do something
When basic human rights of the masses are violated by the government (even a democratically elected one), there is some basis to start discussing wheter violence is morally justified, according to most political theorists.
Ofc the exact threshold of what constitutes mass violations of basic human rights enough to start the conversation can be controversial and i have no doubts leftists will consider mass violations by leftist governments to not be severe enough in most cases, and viceversa for the right.
That said, the wave of arrests and harsh sentences for expressing opinions (not for organizing violent action, just for liking events were unfolding in a violent way), for me, is a complete violation of unalienable rights.
How much that justifies violent action against the perpetrators of those human right violations, and their supporters, isn't obvious, but that a mass violation of absolutely inalienable human rights is happening in the UK right now, is very clear to me.
I hope countries like Italy, Hungary and others keep this in mind when/if a labour-led UK governement asks to re-join the EU, because we can't have countries that violate basic unalienable human rights like that in the EU.
if the uk govt is really serious about locking people up for shitty internet posting then its going to get a lot quieter in here
When basic human rights of the masses are violated by the government (even a democratically elected one), there is some basis to start discussing wheter violence is morally justified, according to most political theorists.
Ofc the exact threshold of what constitutes mass violations of basic human rights enough to start the conversation can be controversial and i have no doubts leftists will consider mass violations by leftist governments to not be severe enough in most cases, and viceversa for th
Care to provide any evidence for this "wave of arrests and harsh sentences"? The only example I've seen in this thread was a person arrested for saying "set fire to the hotels full of the bastards for all I care", which is at least debatable as to whether it's calling for violent action rather than just an opinion, and she hasn't been sentenced yet.