Moderation Questions for Whiners
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
Some people are fine traveling the world while others are terrified in their own back yard.
I've probably spent more time in "dangerous" areas of "dangerous" countries surrounded by "dangerous" immigrants than you've spent eating at the local Mexican joint
People who own wild animals feel confident around them until one day things go very bad. The Crocodile Hunter probably felt pretty good around dangerous animals before he didn't. I personally don't feel the need to put myself into harms way just because I think I'm a tough guy. I just use common sense. Common sense tells me to stay away from bad people and bad places.
People who own wild animals feel confident around them until one day things go very bad. The Crocodile Hunter probably felt pretty good around dangerous animals before he didn't. I personally don't feel the need to put myself into harms way just because I think I'm a tough guy. I just use common sense. Common sense tells me to stay away from bad people and bad places.
You drawing an analogy between immigrants/black people and wild animals is just revolting.
We live in a nanny nation. Liberals feel like it's their job to protect the fragile amongst us. This "protected" class is realizing that this is not in their best interest and in reality is just keeping them where they are. This is why people voted for Trump. He knows the best thing for these people is to get on their feet and make things happen on their own. Political threads need far less moderation. Who exactly is being protected here and why? Why would a personal attack on a poster be an iss
This forum isn't the USA...
You drawing an analogy between immigrants/black people and wild animals is just revolting.
My analogy is about feeling comfortable in dangerous situations when you shouldn't. You are the one mentioning immigrants and black people. That's what people like you do. You stir up trouble. You only look at the negatives. It's always a victim mentality.
People who own wild animals feel confident around them until one day things go very bad. The Crocodile Hunter probably felt pretty good around dangerous animals before he didn't. I personally don't feel the need to put myself into harms way just because I think I'm a tough guy. I just use common sense. Common sense tells me to stay away from bad people and bad places.
Likening immigrants to wild animals is definitely questionable and definitely makes you sound not tough
People who own wild animals feel confident around them until one day things go very bad. The Crocodile Hunter probably felt pretty good around dangerous animals before he didn't. I personally don't feel the need to put myself into harms way just because I think I'm a tough guy. I just use common sense. Common sense tells me to stay away from bad people and bad places.
dude WHAT
We are talking about going to dangerous places. I made an analogy of a dangerous situation like owning a wild animal and you people on cue take this the wrong way. My point is you may be confident you are safe in a dangerous situation until things go bad. People who play with wild animals have that same confidents and often it goes bad.
You're probably a liberal if you think I am comparing immigrants/black people to wild animals. I am not!
You said there are bad immigrants in Arizona, gave us a story of why we should totally be scared because of your experience 25 years ago, and then gave an analogy about wild animals killing people. Except in your analogy the wild animals are also people. Immigrants, to be exact.
Your great grandmother was probably an immigrant too lol
We are talking about going to dangerous places. I made an analogy of a dangerous situation like owning a wild animal and you people on cue take this the wrong way. My point is you may be confident you are safe in a dangerous situation until things go bad. People who play with wild animals have that same confidents and often it goes bad.
You're probably a liberal if you think I am comparing immigrants/black people to wild animals. I am not!
We took it the wrong way when the first analogy you could come up with to describe being around black people/immigrants was wild animals?
Buddy, no. We didn't take it the wrong way. You just showed us who you are.
But don't worry, we already knew.
You said there are bad immigrants in Arizona, gave us a story of why we should totally be scared because of your experience 25 years ago, and then gave an analogy about wild animals killing people. Except in your analogy the wild animals are also people. Immigrants, to be exact.
Your great grandmother was probably an immigrant too lol
My analogy was a response directly to your post about all the dangerous places you have been. My response had nothing to do with immigration. I suggest you all reread the post and you'll see you are taking my comments out of context.
My analogy was a response directly to your post about all the dangerous places you have been. My response had nothing to do with immigration. I suggest you all reread the post and you'll see you are taking my comments out of context.
In my post about all the "dangerous" places I've been the dangerous "wild animals" are still just people.
It doesn't really matter anyways, you guys always do this where you try to frame all your posts in a vacuum when that isn't how conversations work. If the overarching conversation is foreigners/immigrants you can't say "well I called immigrants bad here but I'm just saying those same immigrants (foreigners) are wild animals and you shouldn't let your guard down around them" and expect reasonable adults to not hold you accountable for what you just said.
Why would I do that?
My family got lost in downtown Camden about 25 years ago. It was a bad situation. I walked into a convenience store to get directions back to the freeway. The guy behind the counter told me I shouldn't here. Everybody in the store stopped and stared at me. Later at my Aunts home we were visiting, nobody believed we were lost in Camden and made it out alive. I later found out Camden was the murder capital of the US. It's gotten a lot better since then but no way I'm going bac
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In my post about all the "dangerous" places I've been the dangerous "wild animals" are still just people.
It doesn't really matter anyways, you guys always do this where you try to frame all your posts in a vacuum when that isn't how conversations work. If the overarching conversation is foreigners/immigrants you can't say "well I called immigrants bad here but I'm just saying those same immigrants (foreigners) are wild animals and you shouldn't let your guard down around them" and expect reason
I could have used any number of analogies for the dangers of feeling overly confident in dangerous situations. That was the first one that came to mind. I had no intention of framing it as though I was comparing wild animals to immigrants. I was simply comparing one dangerous situation with another. I may misspeak from time to time but I have respect for all people who deserve my respect regardless of color or immigration status. I suppose I can see where you're coming from given the chronology of posts but your allegations are simply not true.
I can remember about 9 of your posts across all of 2p2 and a full 7 of them are you bringing up trans people, including *totally owning me* today by talking about trans people out of nowhere in two different threads
so you are right, thats 78%, keep up the great work
You, UNPROMPTED, claimed that 90% of my posts are about trans people. A claim beyond bizarre. I did search for my many, many (perhaps hundreds?) posts about trans people and found one that included:
"FYI my opinions on the trans issue are minimal. I don't care at all. But the bias here on who is allowed to post what is something else."
I can only assume you are confusing me with someone else. Not a big deal, no worries.
You said there are bad immigrants in Arizona, gave us a story of why we should totally be scared because of your experience 25 years ago, and then gave an analogy about wild animals killing people. Except in your analogy the wild animals are also people. Immigrants, to be exact.
Your great grandmother was probably an immigrant too lol
My great grand(x125000)mother was a wild animal.
But your "world view" is this?
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My family got lost in downtown Camden about 25 years ago. It was a bad situation. I walked into a convenience store to get directions back to the freeway. The guy behind the counter told me I shouldn't here. Everybody in the store stopped and stared at me. Later at my Aunts home we were visiting, nobody believed we were lost in Camden and made it out alive. I later found out Camden was the murder capital of the US. It's gotten a lot better since then but no way I'm going back.
Change Camden to almost any southern city of the same size.... then picture you are in the 1950s (pick any era really) as a Negro with the same story.
This is where MAGA wants to transport us all back to?
Racism at it finest, for the finest.
You drawing an analogy between immigrants/black people and wild animals is just revolting.
bruh, i don't like that poster one bit, but you're the only one here comparing them to animals
fact those neighborhoods are more dangerous is indisputable and he was responding to the "you can still go there if you're not a pussy" which is true, but that's also what grizzly man and steve irwin thought as well about the dangerous places they went - far more higher profile f around and find out situations than the story of the people who got mugged being in the wrong neighborhood at night
But your "world view" is this?
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Change Camden to almost any southern city of the same size.... then picture you are in the 1950s (pick any era really) as a Negro with the same story.
This is where MAGA wants to transport us all back to?
Racism at it finest, for the finest.
I don't get what you are talking about. I told a true story about my experience in Camden. This has nothing to do with my "world view". I'm just pointing out that this was a very dangerous situation we got ourselves into. Somehow I am being associated with racism and MAGA and yet I haven't mentioned anything about people of color. The real racism is assuming I'm comparing black people and immigrants to animals.
I don't understand your comparison of Camden to any southern city.
this being a poker website...
