President Elon Musk
He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly
of course when you have a range this big there's going to be lots of hand movements that look like nazi salutes.
Strange how you guys keep insisting its incredibly common and so many unfortunate gaffs yet I can't remember a single other incident like this and none of you guys trying to gaslight have provided any examples
Weird, huh?
Bizarre even
How about you strip away all your projected intent and tell me if the motion he made does or doesn’t resemble a Nazi salute.
Then maybe we can work through your absolutely ridiculous assertion that he’s just too autistic to understand the social implications of his actions
It both clearly resembles a nazi salute and he clearly did not intend for it to be similar to a nazi salute and so implies basically nothing at all.
All these other examples of famous people just unfortunately doing a Sig Heil. Give me two. Two videos of two famous people giving a full blown sig heil. Not a picture of their arm in an awkward postion. A video of them unfortunately throwing out a Nazi salute
Not pathetic level weirdo gaslighting images, actual videos like the one of Elon
Yall can't be this obtuse. Like, you are just willingly refusing to engage in good faith at this point. Like 5 of yall
He
1. Amplified far right voices and suppressed leftist voices
2. Retweeted and gave credence to far right rhetoric including eugenics
3. Called his trans child dead
4. Called Nigel farage too progressive and is promoting the UK skinhead party
5. Sat down with a far right German leader to spread Misinformation about Hitlers political leanings
6. And now gave a blatant Nazi salute on MLK day at our presidential inauguration
And this is just the last 2-3 months.
But again, I can’t express enough
1-5 are reasonable things to criticize musk for, are intentional actions on his part, and fit into a particular pattern worthy of critique. 6 is just a regrettable but completely unintended coincidence that does nothing to support the criticisms of musk in 1-5. Just entirely disconnected.
I think why this annoys me is that people criticizing 6 which is just a silly hand gesture that implies nothing makes it seem like the same people bleating about 1-5 are being similarly ridiculous. But they aren't. 1-5 are legit criticisms. 6 isn't. Focus on 1-5.
You mean like explaining the logic that copying and pasting a shopping cart and posting it here as proof you bought something isn't really proof you bought something? Like that logic?
Dude, I was just having a bit of fun with you. And as expected you took the bait hook, line and sinker.
For poker players some of you guys are pretty clueless.
Just so I can best understand this IMAGE of understanding that you posted, is the idea that when one calls a waiter, they shoot their hand up in a forceful fashion, or when at rest they kind of jitter it down low?
I'm confused by what your image is trying to teach us vs what you're asking for.
I guess if you can provide videos that would help.
1-5 are reasonable things to criticize musk for, are intentional actions on his part, and fit into a particular pattern worthy of critique. 6 is just a regrettable but completely unintended coincidence that does nothing to support the criticisms of musk in 1-5. Just entirely disconnected.
I actually prescribe to the thought that 1-6 are all similarly connected that his shift to far right wing politics is the biggest smoking gun evidence that he absolutely knew what he was doing and isn't just some autist inventing an unfortunate overlap to the Nazi salute that literally the whole world learns about in grade schoool
Just so I can best understand this IMAGE of understanding that you posted, is the idea that when one calls a waiter, they shoot their hand up in a forceful fashion, or when at rest they kind of jitter it down low?
I'm confused by what your image is trying to teach us vs what you're asking for.
I guess if you can provide videos that would help.
This is a pretty good one chief
I actually prescribe to the thought that 1-6 are all similarly connected that his shift to far right wing politics is the biggest smoking gun evidence that he absolutely knew what he was doing and isn't just some autist inventing an unfortunate overlap to the Nazi salute that literally the whole world learns about in grade schoool
This is just silly. He literally told you in words what the gesture meant to him while he was doing it. You can be appalled at the right-wing shift evidenced in 1-5, I know I am, without pretending that 6 is just some part of the pattern. As soon as you start pretending he "absolutely knew" he was doing a nazi salute, you now invalidate yourself as a person reasonable enough to even critique 1-5. Just as how most reasonable people will say "obviously he didn't intend a nazi salute" now they can think all your other critiques of musk are similarly devoid of actual evidence beyond your feels.
Just so I can best understand this IMAGE of understanding that you posted, is the idea that when one calls a waiter, they shoot their hand up in a forceful fashion, or when at rest they kind of jitter it down low?
I'm confused by what your image is trying to teach us vs what you're asking for.
I guess if you can provide videos that would help.
Maybe you prefer this one which contextualizes the Kamala image you tried to pass off....
This is just silly. He literally told you in words what the gesture meant to him while he was doing it. You can be appalled at the right-wing shift evidenced in 1-5, I know I am, without pretending that 6 is just some part of the pattern. As soon as you start pretending he "absolutely knew" he was doing a nazi salute, you now invalidate yourself as a person reasonable enough to even critique 1-5. Just as how most reasonable people will say "obviously he didn't intend a nazi salute" now they can
I refuse to think of Musk as a helpless toddler. Maybe we can discuss that he has the emotional maturity of a toddler, but that just feeds into him being a troll. He trolls on twitter all the time.
Do you stay up on Elon lore? Are you just projecting your own values onto a complete wild card?
Regardless of intent, he blasted off a text book sig heil. How does that invalidate me? I seent it with my own two eyes my friend. If I say I'm going to kiss you and then I bite you, well it kinda looked like a kiss didn't it.
I refuse to think of Musk as a helpless toddler. Maybe we can discuss that he has the emotional maturity of a toddler, but that just feeds into him being a troll. He trolls on twitter all the time.
Do you stay up on Elon lore? Are you just projecting your own values onto a complete wild card?
Regardless of intent, he blasted off a text book sig heil. How does that invalidate me? I seent it with my own two eyes my friend. If I say I'm going to kiss you and then I bite you, well it kinda l
He actually could of pre planned this and intended to throw the sig - and covered it up by saying he was throwing out his heart or w/e. Like i said before, it didn't look good. Or he didn't for reasons that Uke stated. We probably won't ever know exactly what he thought but the internet definitely won that day.
He actually could of pre planned this and intended to throw the sig - and covered it up by saying he was throwing out his heart or w/e. Like i said before, it didn't look good. Or he didn't for reasons that Uke stated. We probably won't ever know exactly what he thought but the internet definitely won that day.
Thanks, I appreciate it
He actually could of pre planned this and intended to throw the sig - and covered it up by saying he was throwing out his heart or w/e. Like i said before, it didn't look good. Or he didn't for reasons that Uke stated. We probably won't ever know exactly what he thought but the internet definitely won that day.
And he got away with it
I refuse to think of Musk as a helpless toddler. Maybe we can discuss that he has the emotional maturity of a toddler, but that just feeds into him being a troll. He trolls on twitter all the time.
Do you stay up on Elon lore? Are you just projecting your own values onto a complete wild card?
Regardless of intent, he blasted off a text book sig heil. How does that invalidate me? I seent it with my own two eyes my friend. If I say I'm going to kiss you and then I bite you, well it kinda l
Its pretty simple. He said from my heart to yours while doing it. So to pretend he meant anything else and that it magically connects to some rightward political shift of items 1-5 is just nonsense. If you want to say it was regrettable that he accidentally made a gesture with similarities to nazis, fine, I don’t like it too, but your posts seem to imply this is thematic when there is exactly zero reason to think it is. You don’t need a degree in muskology to see that.
He actually could of pre planned this and intended to throw the sig - and covered it up by saying he was throwing out his heart or w/e. Like i said before, it didn't look good. Or he didn't for reasons that Uke stated. We probably won't ever know exactly what he thought but the internet definitely won that day.
Sure 99% chance purely coincidental, 1% deliberate troll. That’s as generous as I can be.