POG Politics Thread Version 3
Come on in! Since Dustin is taking his ball and going home, it's time to start a new politics thread.
that oxnard Camarillo **** is right next door to me. I drive through there all the time.
I'm scared I could get snatched up.... actually I probably should carry my passport with me. jfc man.
I mean my ancestors have been here over 10 thousand years... but yeah.
USA USA USA :vomit:
I would wear the passport around my neck and brandish that mf yelling passport! Citizen! I have my lawyer on the phone!
Don't forget to put the drone in the air with a feed running.
Tickled my funny bone this morning.
@libsoftiktok
I think all of Washington is shaking. And sadly, that is probably close to the truth.
I don't think they really give AF. they know they are untouchable
Democracy is a system of rule-making in response to material and social conditions.
Capitalism is a system of material distribution (centered on nonpublic entities) produced by those rules and conditions.
They are not incompatible. As a hypothetical extreme, all of the people could vote to empower Z-Corp with total authority over the production and sale of lumber, and it would be both democratic and capitalistic.
Yes. Unfortunately, it's people all the way down however you slice it.
in pre school we are taught to share, take turns, respect each other, etc... like fundamentals of living in a community, a co operative. capitalism is opposed to that. it's exploitative. it's competitive. it's predatory.
People are exploitative, competitive, and predatory.
for example when the lolsupreme court ruled that corporations are people and can buy elections
Corporations are aggregates of people. The court ruled that aggregates of people may not be denied an aggregate voice.
Elections are not "bought" - candidates will often win while spending less than their opponents.
I think I want to separate capitalism from extreme wealth. Capitalism can be equalizing, under circumstances that redistribute wealth. Extreme wealth leads to a kind of feudalism, except it's not the divine right of kings, it's money leading to an overly privileged position.
this, and moreso
Capitalism must operate within a redistributive system. One of the primary thrusts of Marx's critique of capitalism is the crisis of overproduction, which is solved in the redistribution of excess.
are you saying that capitalism is anti democratic? and that the only way they can co exist is if you have anti capitalist mechanisms to try and preserve democracy?
the anti capitalist mechanisms being public institutions that are more powerful than capitalist institutions
if I understand what you're saying, it sounds like unchecked capitalism will destroy democracy
unchecked capitalism will destroy itself
(queue the accelerationists)
I no longer hold democracy as any kind of ideal. In every case, it is simply a mask worn by the Capitalist class. The consent of the governed is an illusion.
Liberal Democracy is the womb of Fascism.
Democracy requires participation - not just at the polls, but in daily education and interaction.
Fascism is the wake of democracy's abdication.
Everything's fine
The rich grow the economy, make more money, inject more money into business and jobs. They help the poor become less poor.
A "job" is not something that is inherently desirable - in fact, it's generally something you don't want to do.
The rich materially organize the poor towards productivity. In a large enough system, the working poor remain poor while the value they create is realized elsewhere.
When the poor socially organize, they are able to retain their created value.
I told y'all to follow Azalea Banks. Yes, that is noted douchebag and coke fiend Conor McGregor.
Go Senator go!!!
I don't understand. mark, are you against NPR? they are so awful! national propaganda radio
they never saw a war they didn't like
I am not "against" NPR. I'm against public funding of NPR's agenda.
