Codenames AI vs AI

[QUOTE=Red guesser]Alright, let's break this down carefully:

The new clue is "Country - 3", and your word list is:

> Bed, Cake, Cherry, Church, Cold, Eden, Floor, Fog, Fuel, Guitar, Gymnast, Hair, Leaf, Onion, Part, Record, Texas, Tower, Violet, Water

First step: which words connect strongly to Country?

Texas — although it's a state, it could be interpreted as country (historically, Republic of Texas was a country!). It seems like a really strong candidate.

Eden — "Garden of Eden" isn't a country... but "Eden" sounds like a place, not a country specifically.

Cherry — "Cherry" could be linked to Japan (land of cherry blossoms), but it's a bit of a stretch.

Water, Cold, Fog, Leaf, Violet, Cake, Hair, Fuel, Gymnast, Onion, Floor, Tower, Record, Bed, Church, Part, Guitar — not obviously countries.

Tower could hint at Eiffel Tower (France) but that's a building not a country.

Cold could hint at cold countries like Russia, Canada, but it's not specific.

So Texas feels very strong.

Other possibilities:

Cherry (for Japan?)

Church (for Vatican City?) — Vatican is a country, though "Church" is a stretch.

Eden — if thinking about Israel / Middle East as a region tied to Eden?

Maybe Floor if stretching to "dance floor" and Cuba (but that's way too far a stretch).

Now, remember — you still have 2 open Desert words hanging around too, from the previous clue. So you need to be a little cautious about anything that could relate to desert.

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My picks for "Country - 3" would be:

1. Texas (very strong)

2. Church (thinking Vatican City)

3. Cherry (thinking Japan — but it's a bit weaker)

Alternatives: Eden (maybe) or Cold (if you stretch it to cold countries).

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Would you like me to also suggest the order to guess in? (Important for Codenames strategy!)

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[QUOTE=Human middle man]Yes please guess order and also your thoughts on the remaining 2 "desert" words that are out there.

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[QUOTE=Red Guesser]Alright, let’s go through this carefully.

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Guess Order for "Country - 3":

1. Texas —
This is by far the strongest connection. Historically, Texas was its own country (the Republic of Texas, 1836–1845). Most players would think of it immediately for "Country."

2. Church —
Vatican City is both a church and a country. It's small but 100% a sovereign country, and "Church" would likely be hinting at this. Solid second guess.

3. Cherry or Eden —

Cherry = Japan (cherry blossoms), but that’s a symbol of Japan, not the country itself.

Eden = Biblical place, tied to the Middle East, possibly Israel, but again, it's more a garden or mythical place than a real "country."

Between Cherry and Eden, Cherry feels slightly better because Japan is a strong country link in players' minds, whereas Eden might feel more mythological.

So:

> Texas > Church > Cherry (in that order)

(If you have doubts after the second guess, maybe stop and discuss.)

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Now, the Desert Words:

Previous clue was "Desert - 3" — you found Sand (good!) and Africa (neutral, but not bad). So two desert words are still hidden.

Which words on the list could connect to "desert"?

Bed — Desert Bed or Sand Bed — this could absolutely be a "desert" link!

Cold — Cold Desert (like Antarctica) — real thing, but maybe not the first thought. Possible but weaker.

Fog — desert fog exists (like in Namibia), but again obscure.

Fuel — oil in desert regions (like Middle East)? Maybe, but feels more 2-3 steps removed.

Floor — desert floor? Possible.

Water — water is lacking in deserts, but "oasis" or "water in desert" is a thought.

Other words like Guitar, Gymnast, Hair, Violet, etc., seem way less likely for "desert."

Top candidates for Desert words:

1. Bed — strong (desert bed, sand bed, dry riverbeds).

2. Floor — desert floor.

Possible but weaker:

Cold — for cold deserts (but obscure).

Fog — desert fog exists but rare knowledge.

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Summary:

For "Country - 3" guesses:

1. Texas

2. Church

3. Cherry

(If you're unsure after Church, maybe pause.)

For the remaining "Desert" words:

Bed (very good candidate)

Floor (good candidate)

(Cold/Fog are weaker but possible.)

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Would you like me to also suggest a way you could "bundle" the desert guesses later if your spymaster doesn't give a new clue for them? (There's a strategy trick for that!)

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[QUOTE=Human middle man]Texas
Church
Cherry
Bed
Floor[/QUOTE].

desert - 3
Animal - 3
Country - 3

Bed
Cake
Cold
Eden
Floor
Fog
Fuel
Guitar
Gymnast
Hair
Leaf
Onion
Part
Record
Tower
Violet
Water

Sand
Texas
Church

Elephant
Goat
Tail

Africa
Cherry

It’s a great idea…gonna see if I can tune the ai enough to be able to beat our old games; teach it about n-1 and creating lists and other stuff we do

Really gotta tune one for clue giving and one for guessing

*eyes*

I'll get back to this soon. It gets more and more arduous as it goes on. Giving the AI the backstory