Do you believe in God?

Do you believe in God?

Tell me people do you believe in God?

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Christian fathers have made promises to their children based on the promises Christ has given and yet to deliver on.

When a father makes a promise to a child, that word is sacred. The good father will seek justice on behalf of his child even against Christ himself.

Christ represents greatness in full. If the good father doesn’t feel worthy enough to confront Christ and hold him to account, then he should use his relationship with Christ to access greatness until he is worthy.


In the Kingdom of God, there can be no imperfection, no sin. When God chose this world for his kingdom, it would have to first face his wrath and be purged.

Christ was sent down into the world with the promise that through him, humanity would be saved from the wrath of God. Christ the protector provided his lordship to those who accepted him as their lord. Despite this, those under the lordship of Christ still suffered in this world just like the rest of humanity.

Christ then went deeper into himself and instead of using himself as a shield, he decided to turn himself into the scapegoat and confront God for his broken promise. Before Christ knowingly walks himself into his crucifixion, he makes a point to communicate to his disciples that the father is in him. What he experiences, God experiences.

Anyone who breaks a promise must face justice and be cleansed by death in order to enter into the new kingdom.


Strangely I got book in the mail today from some ministry called "Holy Moments." The author is Kelly ... that's the name I've long claimed a lot of connection and seeming synchronistic stuff with. So I'll give it a try. I checked out a few video clips of his and, though I wasn't impressed, it wasn't overtly awful and/or charlatan TV preacher level. He's Catholic, and that isn't a good mark. The stuff you have to overlook in that history and still claim God Almighty is behind it is just about 20 levels too disgraceful, and, unbelievable I might add.


So if the Bible says believers can move mountains and do much greater deeds than Jesus, with the proliferation of cell phones around, why are there no recordings of the millions of miracles that should be happening? Why are there zero? I'm willing to take an answer on board and adjust. What is the reason?


It begins to appear that the way to seek "god" is to stay the heck away from organized religions, and travel your own gnostic, spiritual path. There there is no silly doctrine, no barbarism, no judgment, no damnation, no blood sacrifices, etc. If you were to devise a religion of love, would you have blood sacrifices of animals, people, and gods? Might that be a relic of barbarism, ignorance, superstition, and inhumanity that is not worthy of being in a religion of love, or any code of love?


by craig1120 k

In the Kingdom of God, there can be no imperfection, no sin. When God chose this world for his kingdom, it would have to first face his wrath and be purged.

Christ was sent down into the world with the promise that through him, humanity would be saved from the wrath of God. Christ the protector provided his lordship to those who accepted him as their lord. Despite this, those under the lordship of Christ still suffered in this world just like the rest of humanity.

Christ then went deeper into him

And the people you love, when they are imperfect do they need to face your homicidal wrath? Are you sure this isn't just a barbaric, over-the-top religious story that bears no semblance to anything actually moral ... like, say, not killing and judging people for being imperfect? Can you take it on board to consider that? "It isn't moral to judge or kill people for being imperfect" ... that's a thought to ponder. And then, instead of blindly submitting to thoughts written thousands of years ago that include such doctrine, begin to say, "You know, something might be wrong there."


by FellaGaga-52 k

And the people you love, when they are imperfect do they need to face your homicidal wrath? Are you sure this isn't just a barbaric, over-the-top religious story that bears no semblance to anything actually moral ... like, say, not killing and judging people for being imperfect? Can you take it on board to consider that? "It isn't moral to judge or kill people for being imperfect" ... that's a thought to ponder. And then, instead of blindly submitting to thoughts written thousands of years ago

You bring up love, but like many who speak about love, you appear to have no recognizable knowledge of masculine love. You equate feminine love — which is always validating and affirming — as the entirety of love.

Masculine love wants to show you something which it cannot show you within the womb of the feminine. The masculine knows that you desire the feminine paradise and it promises reunification, but you must first enter into the horror story, so that certain things can be revealed to you.


by FellaGaga-52 k

Strangely I got book in the mail today from some ministry called "Holy Moments." The author is Kelly ... that's the name I've long claimed a lot of connection and seeming synchronistic stuff with. So I'll give it a try. I checked out a few video clips of his and, though I wasn't impressed, it wasn't overtly awful and/or charlatan TV preacher level. He's Catholic, and that isn't a good mark. The stuff you have to overlook in that history and still claim God Almighty is behind it is just about 20

Well, little of what he is writing about in this book "Holy Moments" needs a god to do it -- being a good Samaritan, having emotional moments, having breakthroughs of understanding, making good decisions, finding meaning -- except for the judgment and floods and wrath and holy killing. You need certain gods for that. Then he goes to: "You were made in the image of God. Act accordingly." If you act like some god characters, you are a maniacal monster.

If you had a character in a story that killed millions out of judgment, wrath and revenge, would they be a good guy or a bad guy? And if the story said, "Oh it was holy." Would you believe it?


by craig1120 k

You bring up love, but like many who speak about love, you appear to have no recognizable knowledge of masculine love. You equate feminine love — which is always validating and affirming — as the entirety of love.

Masculine love wants to show you something which it cannot show you within the womb of the feminine. The masculine knows that you desire the feminine paradise and it promises reunification, but you must first enter into the horror story, so that certain things can be revealed to you.

Every baby born into this world cries, but that doesn’t mean we should try to put the baby back into the womb of the mother.


by craig1120 k

You bring up love, but like many who speak about love, you appear to have no recognizable knowledge of masculine love. You equate feminine love — which is always validating and affirming — as the entirety of love.

Masculine love wants to show you something which it cannot show you within the womb of the feminine. The masculine knows that you desire the feminine paradise and it promises reunification, but you must first enter into the horror story, so that certain things can be revealed to you.

Well maybe masculine love is where murder, judgment (the opposite of love, i.e. "love keeps no record of wrongs"), torture, slavery and bigotry come from.

BTW, is this version of masculine and feminine love of the Bible?

The realization that love and judgment are opposites is quite the inconsistency for this belief system, is it not? "God is love, love keeps no record of wrongs, God's judges all" (to the point of exterminating most). Is there a problem there?


by FellaGaga-52 k

Well maybe masculine love is where murder, judgment (the opposite of love, i.e. "love keeps no record of wrongs"), torture, slavery and bigotry come from.

BTW, is this version of masculine and feminine love of the Bible?

The realization that love and judgment are opposites is quite the inconsistency for this belief system, is it not? "God is love, love keeps no record of wrongs, God's judges all" (to the point of exterminating most). Is there a problem there?

Murder comes from death and its victims are in the billions. It’s a very wide path. Although, many people won’t dare stray from the seductive path of death so as to (at least temporarily) avoid inconveniences like judgment.

Judgment is a form of death, no doubt. Still, the Son of Man only tastes life.


To wit: Pastor David Zandstra, running a Bible camp for children, abducted and murdered a child, then prayed with her family for her safe return, then searched for her, then presided over her funeral. It's the abomination that the religious look for in people's sexual orientation. And there are hundreds of thousands of these cases, probably millions around the world. When others in the church know about it, the "innocent" ones, there is a near perfect record of covering it up. It's a godly thing.


by FellaGaga-52 k

To wit: Pastor David Zandstra, running a Bible camp for children, abducted and murdered a child, then prayed with her family for her safe return, then searched for her, then presided over her funeral. It's the abomination that the religious look for in people's sexual orientation. And there are hundreds of thousands of these cases, probably millions around the world. When others in the church know about it, the "innocent" ones, there is a near perfect record of covering it up. It's a godly thing

The enemy is lord of the world. He is everywhere. To pretend like he only exists within the bounds of Christianity just shows how much you’re being manipulated.

The strong man on a mission, who has a duty to the child, does not allow himself to be impeded by a lesser being.


by craig1120 k

The enemy is lord of the world. He is everywhere. To pretend like he only exists within the bounds of Christianity just shows how much you’re being manipulated.

The strong man on a mission, who has a duty to the child, does not allow himself to be impeded by a lesser being.

STFU. It's a godly thing and you know it.


by FellaGaga-52 k

STFU. It's a godly thing and you know it.

You should stop thinking about anything to do with religion for a while. It’s not benefiting you or anyone else.


I rammed the Bible up God’s ass. And the moron cried like a baby.


by craig1120 k

You should stop thinking about anything to do with religion for a while. It’s not benefiting you or anyone else.

I might do that, and you keep speaking for god ... you hear?


Some are into untangling what they believe and some aren't. For those that aren't and that become true believers, they have no impulse to decouple from their conditioning, whatever it is. It could be voodoo, hinduism, demons, popes, flat earth, that slaughter of innocents is holy because sin is inherited anyway ... it could be apologizing for systemic child rapist insitutions, witches, Nostradamus ... whatever. Analyzing one's own beliefs for veracity and legitimacy is an orientation; so is defending one's beliefs at all cost instead of analyzing them.

The true believer is on the "my beliefs are just obviously true, they are presupposed and believed into self-evident reality."

"I believe it" as a counter argument is tantamount to: "I don't change. My beliefs are a permanent part of my identity. I don't dare question them."

So if things are in the official doctrine like stoning unvirginal women, stoning unruly children, killing homosexuals ... if genocide, slavery, misogyny, bigotry, the mass killing of infants, belief in magic ... if all this is in the doctrine, we keep the doctrine and throw out our inherent moral compass. Like: "All of those things are moral and holy. They are, they are, they are!" This kind of default on agency to embrace superstitions of thousands of years ago is a problem. Everybody knows that at some level, and that's why apologetics tends to be so adamant and evasive.


by FellaGaga-52 k

Some are into untangling what they believe and some aren't. For those that aren't and that become true believers, they have no impulse to decouple from their conditioning, whatever it is. It could be voodoo, hinduism, demons, popes, flat earth, that slaughter of innocents is holy because sin is inherited anyway ... it could be apologizing for systemic child rapist insitutions, witches, Nostradamus ... whatever. Analyzing one's own beliefs for veracity and legitimacy is an orientation; so is defe

You show no mercy to those who are a level below you in their faith, so you will be given no mercy from the one who is a level above you.


by craig1120 k

You show no mercy to those who are a level below you in their faith, so you will be given no mercy from the one who is a level above you.

There you go again speaking for god. Are you sure you are supposed to put yourself in the role of judging someone like that, or are you expressly violating your religion by doing that? You know, that religious ego of yours flaring into outright sin.


by craig1120 k

You show no mercy to those who are a level below you in their faith, so you will be given no mercy from the one who is a level above you.

Who is the one a level above me to which you refer -- you or god? Or is that kind of the same thing when you get to ranting about religion?

I can kind of get on board with some of that if you mean it in a vein of "we are all in it together, and helping each other in the journey of life is central to purpose, and so therefore those above you or below you in any particular sense are comrades." I'm all for the people much more than any god that kills them for being human, or any religious zealot who wields sophistry when one word is necessary for a religious doctrine.

But then again metaphysics is metaphysics and myths are myths. Render unto each its appropriate content.


by FellaGaga-52 k

Who is the one a level above me to which you refer -- you or god? Or is that kind of the same thing when you get to ranting about religion?

I can kind of get on board with some of that if you mean it in a vein of "we are all in it together, and helping each other in the journey of life is central to purpose, and so therefore those above you or below you in any particular sense are comrades." I'm all for the people much more than any god that kills them for being human, or any religious zealot wh

When you say you’re all for the people, does that include Christians? Again, the vast majority of your posts on this forum are condemning of them.

Moreover, you condemn them in hypocrisy since you allow yourself to believe in hidden things (human spirit) without evidence, but you demand evidence for their claims.


To the question, "Why are you a bigot?" ... the true believer says:

"Well, in the 1st Century they said homosexuality was immoral, lightning was an angry god, earthquakes were god's vengeance, leprosy was caused by demons, etc. They said that God informed them about this so it would be wrong to not believe it. That's how we do religion."


Gnosticism -- an inner knowing of spiritual matters -- as long as it respects reality ... is a legit thing in my book. But being an ipso facto, presumptive, axiomatic, self-evident messenger with a given manifest destiny of spieling some orthodoxy on the nature of god. ... not so much.


If the vast majority of people in India are Hindu, the vast majority in Iran are Muslim, the vast majority in America are Christian ... what does that mean about the religions? Doesn't it mean that god isn't behind the belief systems, the culture is? The cultures create the religions and its people believe them. Over and over and over ... no matter the religion.

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